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To: Space Wrangler
I am pretty much ambivalent when it comes to OS's.

I can't share your OS philosophy. Ambivalence suggests that they're all the same, and one is just as good as the other - or that it doesn't matter. It's like saying there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

What blows my mind is the zealotry of the typical Mac user.

There are plenty of Windows and Linux zealots too. The Mac and Linux zealots tend to be driven by a passion for excellent technology. The Windows zealots are typically motivated by job security concerns. The mediocre quality of Windows keeps a lot of mediocre technicians employed. Their jobs would be eliminated as an unnecessary expense if their company switched to better computer systems, so the Windows zealots are engaged in a campaign of falsehoods and fear-mongering to help maintain their positions. If my job depended on fixing computer problems, I'd be a Windows zealot too.

There is something about these OS wars that seems to bring out the worst in people.

Agreed.

136 posted on 01/05/2007 11:00:41 AM PST by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000
The mediocre quality of Windows keeps a lot of mediocre technicians employed. Their jobs would be eliminated as an unnecessary expense if their company switched to better computer systems, so the Windows zealots are engaged in a campaign of falsehoods and fear-mongering to help maintain their positions.

Re-read that and, if you can, try to realize how asinine that statement is. Of the few Apple networks that I'm familiar with, I can tell you that they are no less prone to any of the issues that any other Server/OS environment would experience. Spotting you a 70% decrease in computer/network maintenance, the proprietary nature of Apple computers would still be more expensive to maintain due to the fact that the hardware cost is double what a PC is, and the extremely small pool of individuals possessing the knowledge makes cost not a factor, but the factor in why Apple has a 6-8% market share. Do you really believe that a mass change over to Apple systems would eliminate all computer maintenance issues? Really??

146 posted on 01/05/2007 11:59:50 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: HAL9000
There are plenty of Windows and Linux zealots too. The Mac and Linux zealots tend to be driven by a passion for excellent technology. The Windows zealots are typically motivated by job security concerns. The mediocre quality of Windows keeps a lot of mediocre technicians employed. Their jobs would be eliminated as an unnecessary expense if their company switched to better computer systems, so the Windows zealots are engaged in a campaign of falsehoods and fear-mongering to help maintain their positions. If my job depended on fixing computer problems, I'd be a Windows zealot too.

Windows admins typically use Windows because a)that is what most businesses use and they are therefore a product of the modern landscape and b)they have lives outside of tweaking software endlessly and prefer a simple and complete integrated environment from a single vendor. Those are the reasons I use it for example.

Your claim that they are using an inferior product because of their inferior skills is a logical fallacy, if the average admin wanted or needed software complexity or major incompatibility issues, they would most all certainly be using Linux or some other obscure half baked product. But of course they do not, nor will they ever, they will use what is easiest, to most everyone on the planet, that of course at this point in history being Windows.

You seem particularly sore that most people in the US and the entire world choose to use Windows, but to claim they do it because it has more bugs or is harder to manage than something like linux is completely absurd. Few people use Linux on a large scale because it sucks to manage, not the other way around.

170 posted on 01/05/2007 4:44:21 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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