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To: PageOne
You owe me an apology...looks like me and Spacewrangler were the correct ones in our analysis. Read Swordmakers post about how he confirmd the MOAB.

I guess when I know I'm right I will come off as arrogant which will attract moths to my flame. But you know what happens to the moth when it gets too close to the flame?

118 posted on 01/05/2007 7:07:26 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

Though I am somewhat new to the data security game, I have known for several months about some proof of concept exploits that Macs were susceptible to under certain conditions. I am pretty much ambivalent when it comes to OS's. I personally run Windows, Mac, and a half dozen or so Linux distros. Data security and penetration testing requires lots of research in real time in order to keep up with any potential new threats. What blows my mind is the zealotry of the typical Mac user. A mere mention of a potential threat, or the recent forming of truly collaborative efforts in the black hat community seems to evoke responses filled with dripping sarcasm and ridicule. I wouldn't hold my breath for any apologies. There is something about these OS wars that seems to bring out the worst in people.


130 posted on 01/05/2007 7:38:43 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: for-q-clinton; antiRepublicrat; HAL9000
You owe me an apology...looks like me and Spacewrangler were the correct ones in our analysis. Read Swordmakers post about how he confirmd the MOAB.

No, he doesn't. How many Mac users are going to have Perl and Ruby even installed, much less running in the background? They are provided on a disk of UNIX utilities that are optional to install if the user needs them or wants them.

Even if installed on the hard drive, they do not start automatically nor are they running in the background on a default Mac. The MoAB "exploits" did not work without the USER, me, doing some extraordinary things to get them to work.

They might be a threat to a Mac user using a MySQL database because Ruby seems to be required for that... but again, a very small minority of Mac users.

The GLEE you've shown with your flurry of replies definitely puts you into the "cigarette in the eye" crowd, for-q.

And, no, I won't be installing any AV anytime soon. Show me a virus in the wild and then I will worry. NONE of the MoAB rise to that level. Yet.

135 posted on 01/05/2007 9:16:56 AM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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