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No Giuliani, No McCain
Petition Online ^ | Dec. 14, 2006 | Andrew Longman

Posted on 12/15/2006 7:22:32 PM PST by FarRockaway

To: The Republican Party

I am a Christian conservative or social conservative. I am Pro-Life. I vote.

Rudy Giuliani is pro-gay, pro-gun control, and pro-abortion.

For these reasons and others, I state very firmly that I will not vote for Rudy Giuliani for President of the United States under any circumstances.

Senator John McCain has waffled on human cloning, has supported experimentation on human embryos, and has attacked prominent Christian clergy because of the, "evil influence that they exercise." John McCain has said of Pro-Life voters, on a public broadcast radio show, that they are, "otherwise intelligent people who say that that's the only issue that will determine their vote." McCain told the San Francisco Chronicle, "I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade."

For these reasons and others, I state very firmly that I will not vote for John McCain for President of the United States under any circumstances.

Sincerely,


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KEYWORDS: 100percenters; giuliani; mccain; nowaymccain; runjohnrun; tancredo; traitorjohn
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To: onyx

"Read the posts before you commnet."

Yours or that other guy's?


561 posted on 12/15/2006 11:25:47 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: FastCoyote

Whatever. I have tired of the conversation.

I am totally opposed to Muslim's holding elected office, but I understand one was elected (democrat).


562 posted on 12/15/2006 11:26:31 PM PST by onyx (Phillip Rivers, LT and the San Diego Chargers! WOO-HOO!)
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To: nopardons
This thread is mostly composed of personal attacks, religious bigotry, and some of the LEAST coherent replies I've ever seen posted to FR.

Yawn.

563 posted on 12/15/2006 11:27:25 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: NapkinUser
I'm NOT talking about your support or lack thereof of the present, sitting president. I am talking about your positions, your statements posted to FR, and what those statements mean, vis-a-vis Conservatism.

Frankly, you haven't a clue as to WHAT Conservatism actually is. And this has been patently obvious from the first day that you posted here; which was not all that long ago.

564 posted on 12/15/2006 11:27:26 PM PST by nopardons
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To: NapkinUser

HORSEFEATHERS !


565 posted on 12/15/2006 11:28:28 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Texasforever

Sadly, things changed quite a while ago.


566 posted on 12/15/2006 11:29:12 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Well, they aren't actually Christians but they are, for the most part, staunch Republicans.

How this turned into who's Christian and who's not is beyond me at this point! This whole thread has morphed....and not in a good way!

Gonna go have a cig..........maybe they will be gone when I get back.....


567 posted on 12/15/2006 11:30:23 PM PST by bonfire
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To: NapkinUser

Dear Friends,

There is that funny rule about so-many internet blog iterations until someone calls someone else 'hitler'. We are now at the point where the RINO faction is very big into calling people 'bigots' and bashing Christian bigots and so on and I predict within the next 3 or 4 posts, somebody will call somebody else 'hitler'. So, having illustriously begun this thread with what is obviously on the mind of a lot of people, namely that no conservative should ever vote for Giuliani or McCain and that we should deep-six them NOW so they don't suck up all the money, I shall hereby end the thread with a sign-off.

It's remarkable to me how the RINO faction quickly gravitates towards bantying the illegitimacy of conservative posters who want nothing to do with Giuliani/McCain. Our legitimacy is questioned. Yet Giuliani/McCain are anti-republican-platform. I've proposed a clear alternative: Tancredo. I hope sincerely y'all will really look at him.

But if we, the community, the movement, can deep-six Giuliani-McCain now, injuring them with the petition, with publicity, with advocacy, etc, we can position a true conservative better. Who gets the money early matters.
And that is why your action now, to take dollars from Giuliani/McCain matters if you want to see a real conservative win.

The rabbit trail about Romney & Mormonism was valid because, after all, he is working very hard to? Vaccuum up the early money. And it's nuts because he's a liberal. (there's a website out there to that effect)

I thank you sincerely and if you are of the mind that Rudy/John is a very bad idea, email your buddies and get them to sign the petition. It's a short good statement.

To all a good night.


568 posted on 12/15/2006 11:30:25 PM PST by FarRockaway (This despotic gerrymander a greater freedom than what once was?)
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To: nopardons

"Frankly, you haven't a clue as to WHAT Conservatism actually is."

This coming from you is a real laugher, in my opinion.

I don't want to get into any argument. People can disagree.


569 posted on 12/15/2006 11:30:46 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: FastCoyote; onyx
Little boys, in adult bodies, ALWAYS say that, when they finally find out that the person who has bested them, is not a man. You and your misogynist pals need to grow up and stopped being so afraid of women, that you have to put them down, so that you can feel good.
570 posted on 12/15/2006 11:32:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: onyx

You said -- "What is it about the First Ammendment that you do not understand?"

Well, thank you for pointing out that my First Amendment rights are *intact* and I'm able to point out the fact that Mormons are *not Christians* (according to the tenets of the Christian faith, agreed upon across the board by many denominations and as espoused by the Bible). They are a *cult*.

I'm glad you agree to the fact that I have my First Amendment rights.

Now the Mormons have theirs, too -- and they can "try" to say that they are "Christian" in their "extra-curriculaar" sources for their "authority" (which are *outside* of the Bible) -- but they won't succeed in trying to fool people into believing that they are *actually* and *truly* Christian (except for the ignorant and the foolish, perhaps).

Regards,
Star Traveler


571 posted on 12/15/2006 11:33:00 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: onyx

Yes, I do.


572 posted on 12/15/2006 11:33:22 PM PST by nopardons
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To: primeval patriot
By all means, go back to sleep and please don't rouse yourself for the next 30 years. Your absence will NOT even be noted here and you won't be missed. ;^)
573 posted on 12/15/2006 11:34:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: bonfire

FR has morphed into something peculiar.


574 posted on 12/15/2006 11:36:06 PM PST by nopardons
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To: bonfire


You smoke? OMG, you'll be blasted for that!


575 posted on 12/15/2006 11:36:10 PM PST by onyx (Phillip Rivers, LT and the San Diego Chargers! WOO-HOO!)
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To: onyx

Seeing the RNC's finest worked into a lather is worthy of a front page thread.

No need to put it in the backroom.

Hundreds of replies, plenty of ideas, bots foaming at the mouth.

Fantastic stuff. Why on earth would you want to relegate to an area where average FR surfer won't see it?



576 posted on 12/15/2006 11:36:21 PM PST by primeval patriot
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To: onyx

I live in lib land where smoking is now a crime......so I'm used to it!


577 posted on 12/15/2006 11:36:55 PM PST by bonfire
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To: nopardons


Exactly so. Just like clock work. LOL


578 posted on 12/15/2006 11:37:04 PM PST by onyx (Phillip Rivers, LT and the San Diego Chargers! WOO-HOO!)
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To: primeval patriot
Fantastic stuff. Why on earth would you want to relegate to an area where average FR surfer won't see it?

Are you attributing powers to me?

Vanities are delegated to chat.

579 posted on 12/15/2006 11:39:05 PM PST by onyx (Phillip Rivers, LT and the San Diego Chargers! WOO-HOO!)
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To: bonfire


What a drag.


580 posted on 12/15/2006 11:39:29 PM PST by onyx (Phillip Rivers, LT and the San Diego Chargers! WOO-HOO!)
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