Posted on 12/07/2006 7:16:54 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
"Resentment of parents for whatever reason (absentee-ism prevalent among them) seems to be a common thread. That and abuse at the hands of the trusted men in their lives..."
Would that be why she's so close to her father? She and Dick really seem to have a strong relationship. I never saw it as something sinister.
I'm right around that age myself. Ahhh nostalgia.
That's just it. What they are doing is so selfish. I can only imagine the pain and ridicule that child will go through being raised in that lifestyle. As a society, we should condemn these acts. We don't condemn the children, of course, but when the child is old enough they should get exposure to better morals than they're being raised with. Unfortunately, society being what it is and only getting worse, I don't see how this will happen.
Laughing......yeah, probably Antoninus.
Funny isn't it, that so many fail to see the fact that all laws are based on what is or is not considered moral.
You know you are getting older when you scoop your music out of the $3.99 bin at the record store (grin)
I think Tommy (Cousin Kevin and Uncle Ernie) pretty much was your proof right there.
Rough boys, under the sheets, want to bite and kiss you nailed it down as far as Townsend was concerned.
And even libertarianism would allow people the right to express disapproval.
Everybody has a set of moral codes, even those that think they don't.
This does not affect me at all. She seems to have a very stable relationship, wants a child and everyone in the family is ok with her decision from what I have heard. More important things to fret about these days.
Merry Christmas everyone :)
A related thread, and important read
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1750093/posts
So what should we do? In my view there are three options:And for those who say Mary's choice does not affect them... Shame on you for not standing on principle.1) LIBERAL OPTION: embrace the lie, throw away common sense and centuries of Judeo-Christian tradition, and support homosexuality and gender confusion as civil rights. Watch and cheer as Americans First Amendment rights to live out their faith and disagree with homosexuality get superseded by gays demanding sexual freedom in its various manifestations;
2) FEEL GOOD COMPROMISE: support the middle ground of civil unions/domestic partnership. (We wont call it marriage, but the media will.) This actually rewards homosexual activism by legitimizing gay relationships thus creating a faulty paradigm of acceptable, responsible homosexuality. This option will confuse youth and help all homosexuals rationalize their immoral relationships. It also will embolden gay advocates in their struggle to legalize same-sex marriage;
3) STAND ON PRINCIPLE: recognize that homosexual behavior and homosexual relationships are always wrong and must not be rewarded by our government or by our laws. Resist all attempts to confirm youth in counterfeit homosexual, bisexual or transgender identities. Extend the hope of the life-changing Gospel to homosexual strugglers while fighting the gay political/cultural agenda with everything youve got.
We at Americans For Truth hope that you will join us in pursuing Option Three. God bless. Peter LaBarbera
sir ... I bow to you ... BEST RESPONSE EVER!!!!
No, Mary Cheneys action doesn't set an example that is detrimental for mothers with less financial resources who will start down an irrevocable path into poverty that tends to be generational. Young, poor women were having children out of wedlock long before Mary's mother was even born. It isn't Mary's action that sets an example, but our morally bankrupt society as a whole sets the tone which creates a fertile ground for actions like this to flourish.
To point out one individual as the cause celebre for dysfunctional families in America reaches a new low in the arena of melodramatics.
Would Mary's marriage to a financially successful man ensure the wellbeing of her child? Isn't it a fact that Mary's sexual orientation is an impediment to such a relationship, and no marriage to a man would change this fact?
The writer's position is that women shouldn't have children out of wedlock and I agree with that. However, abortion isn't the solution to remedy such pregnancies.
It is true that a fatherless child might tend to derail, but so are the children of married heterosexual couples. There is more danger to our children's wellbeing from exposure to the sexual escapades and drug filled orgies of our pop culture icons and politicians, as well as the sexually immature antics of pop artists like Britney Spears and Paris Hilton, than exposure to a woman choosing to NOT aborting her child.
As I see it, the problem isn't having a child, but the environment in which this child will grow up. Mary is a successful woman, I'm sure she doesn't need welfare or government handouts to raise her child, but it is her sexual orientation that will deprive her child of a a father figure, and he or she will grow up with a distorted sense of what family means.
Is she selfish for doing this? Yes, I believe so, and I might add that she is also wrong, but under such circumstances being that Mary is a lesbian marrying a man to have a child wouldn't have changed the view point of the child. As he/she got older, he/she would've realized that his/her mother didn't love nor even like his father, and that she preferred women, resulting in a child's distorted sense of traditional family values.
I agree with your sentiments entirely. Giving Mary Cheney too much credit or heat is misplaced. I don't know why some folks would be unusually fixated by her case.
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