Mary Cheney's pregnancy affects us all

Townhall ^ | 12/07/2006 | Janice Shaw Crouse

[Wormwood]

That is where the priorities are. We are stuck with two years of democratic rule and we are worried about one baby

Okay, good point.

There are much more important things in the world to concern ourselves about, and I will bet that not a single mind has been changed in this thread.

In fact, I'm fairly certain that positions have been further polarized.

[SoothingDave]

You clearly looked for insult, instead of charitably reading his words to indict those two-career homes of the wealthy who place career over child rearing.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Right friend? (smiling)

[ChurtleDawg]

some one had just posted something to me about how regrettable that many of the old, victorian morality laws were no longer on the books or enforced

[linda_22003]

She's done that for many years now.

[little jeremiah]

Nope, I'm in favor of the actual people deciding what they want to be legal/illegal. For instance: In my very rural very small town a man bought a commercial building and planned a bar and strip joint. In this very small (three blocks long) town, there are already about 7 bars and lots of fatalities (many involving liquor) and the road in and out of this valley is notoriously dangerous.

There was a city council meeting with the hugest attendence in years, with every single person except this man and one or two supporters who did not want him to be given a liquor/entertainment license. The city council had to give him the license because - why? Because the state mandates that there can be no moral reason to disallow any business licence. No moral values are allowed to influence any licensing in this wonderful state. Then a petition circulated garnering over 600 signatures in a week. Every issue of the local paper had about 10 letters each week, the vast majority against the opening of the strip joint.

A similar thing happened when a porno shop opened on the main street, where middle school and high school kids walk by every school day. The state legislature (at that time run by Democrats, btw) mandated that porn shops have a right to promote porn everywhere and anywhere, just not right next to a school.

So what if the local people who actually live here overwhelmingly DO NOT WANT PORN SHOPS AND STRIP JOINTS IN THE DOWNTOWN OF THEIR SMALL TOWN. Big state government has shoved this down our throats whether we want it or not.

This is Big Government.

Luckily, the strip joint entrepeneur ran out of money.

[Responsibility2nd]

Wrong answer. But thank you for playing. And for your efforts I have this little gift for you:

[Stone Mountain]

You clearly looked for insult, instead of charitably reading his words to indict those two-career homes of the wealthy who place career over child rearing.

The statement was wrong. Period. I explained why and you ignored it. Hey, I tried.

[SoothingDave]

I was saying whatever to your nonsensical arguements, not to the situation.

You said "whatever" to my pointing out that your suggestion that everything said on FR is a call to "political activism" was absurd.

Do yourself, and the conservative movement a favor: Lock yourself in the closet and never come out.

Do the conservative movement a favor and call yourself a libertarian if that is what you are. Always nice to see the free speech defenders out.

[zbigreddogz]

YEP!

But I'm sure you won't even bother to acknowledge that I've just been proven right.

[Palladin]

How do these dykes decide which uterus to use? Or do they take turns??

[Antoninus]

But I think it was good for me.

Sincere question: Who raised you during the day?

It depends on the parents - there are many parents who don't work who are crappy parents and many who do that are great parents.

This is a hedge answer. Let's try again: In general, do you think that having both parents work is good for children?

The thing is, if you had just said that having two parents that work isn't as good for a child than if one didn't, I wouldn't have posted back to you. But saying that because parents work, they aren't "true" parents is ludicrous and indefensible.

You misread what I said. It was specific to the Cheney case. Her child won't, in all likelihood, know who their father is. And will be confused as to who their mother is. And sorry, I do believe that mothers who put their career before their children (except in cases of true need), while they may be "true" parents, have their priorities severely screwed up.

[little jeremiah]

Note my comment above.

[xsmommy]

it is a viable alternative to the current situation and the preferable one.

[He Rides A White Horse]

the poster said his taxes were paying for her irresponsibility

...the poster was me, and it's a form of rudeness to refer to a poster without pinging them. I'll let that slide given your, well, 'newness' to this forum.

Speaking of posters, Mary Cheney is not by a longshot the poster child for single motherhood.....but you knew that already, didn't you?

[little jeremiah]

? What is that apropos of?

[little jeremiah]

Fascination? I'm commenting about your comments.

[zbigreddogz]

I'm in favor of the actual people deciding what they want to be legal/illegal.

And that's not the government...how exactly?

Big state government has shoved this down our throats whether we want it or not.

No, individual rights forced this down your throat. If you didn't want him to have the land so badly, why didn't you pool your resources as a community and buy the land?

You are a poster child for what I was talking about: You are perfectly willing to let Government do something that free markets and communities should do.

Luckily, the strip joint entrepeneur ran out of money.

Wow, free market worked. Who knew?

[napscoordinator]

Mary’s pregnancy is an “in-your-face” action countering the Bush Administration’s pro-family, pro-marriage and pro-life policies.



If you truly believe this than Mary must not think things through. She should have gotten pregnant in 2004 perhaps nine months before the election and then have the blessed event happen the night before the election. If you really believe that she would consider President Bush in this decision than why would she wait until he is out the door to do this? I understand that you are having a heart attack over this and I feel for you if this is overwhelming for you, but trust me this once when I tell you that life will go on.

[Responsibility2nd]

Our prisons are full of fatherless children. My taxes pay for that.

So anything done in an effort to reduce fatherless children means I get to keep more of my money.

Who cares if the Cheney's have a gazillion dollars? The point is, Mary's decision affects me and you.

Or else we wouldn't be discussing it.