Confederate Kook Still Smarts Under Civil War "Occupation" (El Rushbo Defends The Union Alert)

Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 12/04/2006 | Rush Limbaugh

[goldstategop]

El Rushbo takes on a Confederate kook to defend the greatest of American Presidents - the first Republican President - Abraham Lincoln - the Civil War and its result... the preservation of The Union.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[ItisaReligionofPeace]

The winner gets to write "history".

[Moose4]

Well, by modern standards, Lincoln *was* a bigot. It's a well-known statement of Lincoln's that he didn't care about freeing the slaves at first, he just wanted to reunite the Union. He seized on emancipation when it became politically expedient to do so. Lincoln wasn't an abolitionist--he had much the same prejudices about blacks that most Northerners AND Southerners did 150 years ago.

But that's why it's so dangerous to judge people in the 1860s by modern standards, which is something that modern liberals always seem to want to do.

I'm not as much of a Lincoln-hater as a lot of fellow semi-unreconstructed Confederates--yes, he ran roughshod over the Constitution (suspension of habeas corpus, etc.), and there's no denying that one of the results of the War Between the States was a massive centralization of Federal power and a consequent reduction in state power. But he wasn't an evil ogre. He did what he thought he had to do to reunite the country--unfortunately, in addition to the good consequences, there have been some unforeseen bad ones as well.

}:-)4

[MACVSOG68]

El Rushbo takes on a Confederate kook to defend the greatest of American Presidents - the first Republican President - Abraham Lincoln - the Civil War and its result... the preservation of The Union.

Yes, he was the greatest president, but I guarantee you there are a number on this forum with perverted ideas very similar to those of the caller. Your thread might just be graced by one or two of them.

[Rodney King]

The caller is definetly a kook, but I really don't get the fascination with Lincoln.. he is the direct cause of the exapnsionist federal government.

[facedown]

bttt

[Michael.SF.]

I don't agree with Lincoln as being "the greatest Republican President", but Rush gave this guy more time then he should have.

[goldstategop]

Yes we can expect the Southern Lost Cause Brigade to rally on FR to twist the truth around. I only wish Bush had been as hard on treason to the country as Lincoln had been. It takes a cunning ruthlessness to not only preserve one's country but to win a war.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[Ilky Hucktar]

When I heard this, I kept imagining the caller foaming at the mouth.

[goldstategop]

He's the greatest American President, period. After Washington, Lincoln is rightly regarded by all as the Second Father Of His Country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[Jibaholic]

The winner gets to write "history".

Yup. The pro-choice history is that you aren't a person unless you've already been born. And if the South had won, it would be accepted history that you are not a person unless you are white.

If there were really about state's rights, then why is that the Articles of Confederation did not grant states the right to secede?

[StoneWall Brigade]

I don't like to the term Confederate Kook it is very distasteful

[xcamel]

Than call totally took the cake.

[popdonnelly]

My favorite unreported bit of Civil War history is the fact that most of the leaders of the Confederacy were Democrats. The northerners who sided with the Confederacy were also largely Democrats. And the people who took African-Americans' rights away after Reconstruction were also Democrats.

[goldstategop]

The President did not seek a quarrel with the South. When the South challenged the supremacy of federal laws, there could be but one response. At that moment, the die was cast.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[Jibaholic]

If there were really about state's rights, then why is that the Articles of Confederation did not grant states the right to secede?

Err, make that The Constitution of the Confederate States of America.

[org.whodat]

I'm not as much of a Lincoln-hater as a lot of fellow semi-unreconstructed Confederates--yes, he ran roughshod over the Constitution (suspension of habeas corpus, etc.), and there's no denying that one of the results of the War Of Northern aggression was a massive centralization of Federal power and a consequent reduction in state power. But he wasn't an evil ogre. He did what he thought he had to do to reunite the country--unfortunately, in addition to the good consequences, there have been some unforeseen bad ones as well.

}:-)4

Just had to make that one little correction, LOL

[goldstategop]

Yes. The party of treason also restored Jim Crow and racism after Reconstruction. That too has been forgotten by a lot of Americans. Its this same party of treason at work undermining America even today.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[ml/nj]

Too bad the caller didn't get in a shot about the "malice toward none, and charity for all" crap Honest Abe prattling about while he was telling his generals to burn widows and orphans out of their homes. Or maybe the caller could have asked Rush what he thinks about a man who would sneak off a train, under cover of darkness (and disguise), that he thought would be attacked and leave his unknowing wife and children to ride on into the abyss. And I guess Jefferson's words in the Declaration of Independence about consent of the governed, &c. mean nothing to Rush. (Actually, I know they do mean something to Rush, but if all one has ever learned about the War Between the States was what he learned in high school, then he hasn't learned all there is to know about the War Between the States.)

ML/NJ (Honest Yankee)