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1 posted on 11/08/2006 3:13:22 AM PST by TexasPatriot8
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this the way our system is supposed to work? People vote, or they don't, and the majority of those who vote rules. I'm not thrilled about it either, but I accept the results because the system is the best on this earth.
It's too bad that more people didn't get out and vote the way you think they should have. But that's the way it goes, friend. Now that you've vented your spleen, direct what's left of your obvious anger toward what needs to be done in order for the GOP to win next time.
But first get some sleep.


70 posted on 11/08/2006 4:06:59 AM PST by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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Unless something spectacular happens between now and November 2008, America is dead as a conservative values oriented nation.

Something spectacular, like growing spines, actually doing something conservative, stopping the invasion of our country, actually representing the wishes of conservatives?  How about actually voting as a bloc in Congress and the Senate, just like the Democrats?  Hell, you would have never known that they were the majority party in both houses!

Maybe being mugged by the Democrats may just be the medicine to remind them that they have to represent their base for their whole term, not just the last month before an election.

73 posted on 11/08/2006 4:08:21 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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You nailed it, my man.


74 posted on 11/08/2006 4:09:05 AM PST by Skooz (It's Morning in Pelosistahn)
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Blaming no-vote Conservatives for the Republican loss is a lot like blaming a church congregation for its preacher's sins.

No, don't blame those folks who are justifiably angry over how our Republican majority Congress let us down over the past two years and chose to exercise their right (and it is their right) to not vote in this election. Blame the feckless Republican leaders in Congress, the Bush Administration, and the Republican National Committee for the loss. By ignoring their constituencies' demands for a strong Conservative legislative and judicial agenda following the 2004 election, and by failing to keep the Conservative base energized, they were the ones who engineered our defeat last night.

BTW, the tone of your post does not do FR credit since it sounds exactly like one of the tantrums routinely thrown over at DU. I would tone it down.

76 posted on 11/08/2006 4:10:35 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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You are an embarrassment to FReepers everywhere. Take your foul mouthed whines someplace else.


77 posted on 11/08/2006 4:11:41 AM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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At some point you have to stop compromising your values and stop voting for the lesser of two evils. I think some people started doing that yesterday.


78 posted on 11/08/2006 4:12:14 AM PST by Drago
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Let go and let God.


79 posted on 11/08/2006 4:13:10 AM PST by Musket (The last major culture shift took about 2 years 1968-69 -- so why is this one taking so long?)
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Dude, you sound like someone from DU. Get a grip. Politics ebb and flow. Relax.


82 posted on 11/08/2006 4:16:13 AM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace (lookw)
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Look--it's disgusting to think of Speaker Pelosi. It's a horror to think of a Democrat-controlled House. However---we all know that the pendulum swings both ways. It was going to happen some time. I refuse to go off the deep end about it. Besides, it's going to make a lot of fodder for FReepers. I repeat--I'm not going to commit Hara Kiri over it.


86 posted on 11/08/2006 4:17:55 AM PST by Clara Lou
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Don't hold back. Tell us exactly how you feel.


88 posted on 11/08/2006 4:19:23 AM PST by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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I voted straight R yesterday. Not that it does much in Massachusetts. But I still voted. The spirit of America still lives on in my heart.

Did Yoda and Obiwan give up after the Revenge of the Sith?

Absolutely not!

There were tough times ahead to be sure, but the good side finally triumphed in the Return of the Jedi.

89 posted on 11/08/2006 4:19:43 AM PST by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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This is directed at those so called "conservative" retards who did not vote for their Republican Senators and Representatives in the few close states

Urban legend. Another freeper gets played like a ball by the MSM

92 posted on 11/08/2006 4:20:46 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Get a kleenex and wipe your nose. Make it a big kleenex seeing you're from Texas and all.


94 posted on 11/08/2006 4:21:37 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
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Dear Texas Patriot...we have no one to blame but the Republicans themselves and especially President Bush....I went to vote,but I had to hold my nose to do so,they have betrayed their conservative base. Unfortunately the Republicans have been ignoring the people who put them there for years, and now they are paying the price......they have just completely ignored their base support.....no tax reform,no Socialist Security reform,They spent our hard earned tax money like a bunch of drunk Democrats,no smaller government, they would NOT control our borders, the Bush's Justice Department did NOTHING to all of the traitors and leakers ....NOTHING.... I can only hope that this will wake the "Republicans" up, but somehow I doubt it. It just seems that they just NEVER learn.....


98 posted on 11/08/2006 4:25:31 AM PST by democratsaremyenemy
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Nice rant. Now let's look at 2008.


100 posted on 11/08/2006 4:26:22 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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Dont let it get you down Pardner. Its going to get a lot worse before it gets better. You are about to see what happens when a real majority takes power. Republicans are about to be sent to school in the House. Lawd knows they need some schooling , they sure didnt know what to do with a majority.


108 posted on 11/08/2006 4:38:38 AM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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YAWN!

Learn to use paragraphs and perhaps, I'll read it all.

114 posted on 11/08/2006 4:51:11 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that55AM kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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Blow it out your ass.


118 posted on 11/08/2006 5:00:00 AM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Vent. It's good, it's necessary, and there is assuredly a LOT to be pissed about.

The Democrats control the House. Considering the fact that far more Democrat seats were up for grabs in the Senate than Republican seats, we're lucky that the Senate sits fairly even as it is.

And it's your right to be pissed. But in a situation like this, you have two choices: you can be pissed or you can take a step back and evaluate the situation. It's right to do the former, but I hope we are able to come around to doing the latter sooner or later.

First off, I have been rather disturbed by the hyper-orthodox "I'm-more-conservative-than-you" outlook that has reigned around here for the past two years. If you tell people in our party often enough that they are not "conservatives", they start to believe you after a while and they leave. Elections are not won by insulting members of our party and telling them they are RINOs because they don't take a hardline approach to conservatism.

There has been a disconnect with reality in this forum for several years now, and I believe last night was its culmination. Individuals with hardline, hyper-orthodox positions have been very active in labeling bearers of bad news "trolls" or "RINOs". There are many individuals here suffering under the mistaken notion that if we are just orthodox enough in our Conservatism, we'll begin to win... and that bad news for Republicans CAN'T be bad... because we KNOW that all bad news is MSM spin.

As much as some might hate to hear it, the broad majority of this country is not "Conservative" in the orthodox sense promoted here! A large number of those that vote "Republican" ARE those that are otherwise dismissed as RINOs! It used to be that we considered them Republicans, but as of late we've been hesitant to even grant them the name. Yet there are some around here whom seem to believe that if we alienate JUST enough of these people in the next two or so years, we'll start to win elections... would someone mind explaining this logic to me?

There has been a disconnect with reality here. You can see it in the posts building up to last nights elections, snidely dismissing exit polls as MSM spin, and dismissing Republicans that feared major losses as "wanting" the Democrats to win. Everyone was waiting to see the rats eat crow, and instead we wound up with egg on our faces.

The fact of the matter is that we can't win elections or promote our values if we're disconnected from reality and alienating loyal supporters. We also can't win if we run around yelling about how the American people are stupid. The American people ARE America, and as much as I do not like saying it, if you hate them and think they are stupid and don't trust them to make their own decisions at the ballot box, you're every bit as much of an America hater as the Hard Left of the Democratic Party. You can't love a country and hate its people and institutions.

We'll survive. The Democrats gain nothing by backing out on the War on Terror or outright withdrawing from Iraq and they know it. They gain nothing by cutting funds to our troops. If they back off on the War on Terror or withdraw from Iraq, and a terror attack occurs, they know the blame will lie on THEIR shoulders. If they cut funding to the troops and our men and women in uniform start dying in droves, THEY will get blamed. This will happen because we won't let them hear the end of it. They know it.

We are Americans first and Republicans/Conservatives second. I think some people forget this. Part of being an American means trusting the American people when they make decisions for themselves, and trusting in our Institutions to see us through the bad times as well as the good. We can either choose to chalk up our loss to "American stupidity" and look no further into the matter, or we can take a step back and look at the numerous reasons we actually lost. We can spout off that the Democrats were successful because they ran on "Hate Bush" platform, or we can take the time to examine what they are actually saying and doing.

I suppose we can also go about summarily dismissing those that are not "conservative" enough for our tastes from the Republican Party. But how are we going to win elections when all that's left in the Republican Party is you and me?


134 posted on 11/08/2006 5:39:41 AM PST by MWS
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The American I knew was gone when the KELO V. NEW LONDON decision was handed down from the Supremes.
135 posted on 11/08/2006 5:41:21 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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