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One in Four Smokers Will Get Lung Disease
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Posted on 10/17/2006 1:09:34 PM PDT by trumandogz

TUESDAY, Oct. 17 (HealthDay News) -- A new study finds that at least 1 in every 4 smokers will develop progressive and incurable chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), a much higher risk than previously believed.

COPD is a respiratory disease that results in blocked air flow to the lungs and grows progressively worse.

For this study, published online in the journal Thorax, researchers at Hvidovre Hospital analyzed data on 8,000 men and women, ages 30 to 60. All were monitored for 25 years as part of the Copenhagen City Heart Study.

At the start of the study, all the participants' lungs were healthy and working normally. However, over the course of the 25 years, the lungs of almost all the male non-smokers continued to function normally, compared to 60 percent of men who continued to smoke.

Among women, 90 percent of non-smokers still had healthy lungs at the end of 25 years, compared to 70 percent of smokers.

Overall, 25 percent of the participants developed moderate or severe COPD over the 25 years. Persistent smokers were six times more likely to develop COPD than non-smokers.

During the 25 years, there were 2,900 deaths in the study group. Of those deaths, 109 were directly attributable to COPD, and nearly all those deaths were in people who were active smokers at the start of the study. Only two non-smokers died of COPD.

The study also found a sharp decline in the risk of COPD among people who stopped smoking soon after the start of the study. Over the 25 years, none of these ex-smokers developed severe COPD.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: addiction; buttlist; denial; dontinhale; humanashtrays; nicotine; puff; pufflist; smoke; smoking; tobacco; tobaccoaddicts
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To: Ditter
I suspect you won't see the truth until you see it on your x-ray or MRI.

Shortly after that, I'll see it in the sights of my .45-70.

421 posted on 10/18/2006 7:42:54 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Alter Kaker; Madame Dufarge
"You're calling me a socialist? LMAO."

Actually, that was kind.

You are in fact a full-blown fascist.

422 posted on 10/18/2006 7:49:40 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper
You are in fact a full-blown fascist.

Awwwwwww! How cute.

423 posted on 10/18/2006 7:51:44 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Toby06
Other peoples smoke annoys me, that's why I try to be as considerate as possible when I smoke.

I used to do that too, until I realized it only encourages the folks who would use government guns to stop you from doing something they find offensive.

Come on out of the closet. Free your inner outlaw.

424 posted on 10/18/2006 7:54:40 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: auto power
...well....at least they know what they're going to die from......

Ever seen anyone die of COPD? About as awful a death as there is. fighting for every breath. Patients slowly suffocate, end up looking skeletal as every ounce of energy is used up trying to breath. Not how I want to go.....
425 posted on 10/18/2006 7:56:42 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: trumandogz
But I thought it was impossible for other people's smoke to bother anyone or to cause an allergic reaction.

I'm annoyed by fat people, but I haven't sought (yet) to banish them from society.

BTW, allergic reactions require protein.

There is no protein in tobacco smoke.

426 posted on 10/18/2006 8:02:03 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Alter Kaker
Awwwwwww! How cute.

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

427 posted on 10/18/2006 8:08:48 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

So the addicts are reduced to name calling. Whatever you need to do to justify your own behavior...


428 posted on 10/18/2006 8:20:15 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: trumandogz
One in Four Smokers Will Get Lung Disease

Close to four in four smokers will die free and happy.

429 posted on 10/18/2006 8:22:28 PM PDT by EGPWS (Lord help me be the conservative liberals fear I am.)
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To: Alter Kaker
So the addicts control freaks are reduced to name calling. Whatever you need to do to justify your own behavior...

There, all fixed.

430 posted on 10/18/2006 8:30:02 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Quix

Quix...this isn't a very Christian attitude you are showing here. Many of these people are friends, and I don't like to see them being ridiculed for their choices. Remember "Judge not, lest ye be judged".


431 posted on 10/18/2006 8:58:44 PM PDT by trussell (Proud to be a Jesus Freak!)
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To: trussell

I respect your perspective. Sorry if I crossed such a line.

I actually consider it unChristian to AVOID WARNING a brother overtaken in a fault, as Scripture exhorts.

I consider our bodies at least a POTENTIAL temple of the Holy Spirit. . . . due a lot of respect and reverential care rather than glib, casual, addicted trashing.

I believe in free choice rather intensely.

But I hope folks would raise a loud furor if they caught me addicted to playing with rattle snakes in a playpen with my 4 year old [hypothetical].

I don't consider it loving or respectful to walk on by on the other side of the road when someone I care for is being self destructive--whether they realize it or not.

Truth is truth. Yes, it can be brutal when void of caring, of love. If I didn't care, I wouldn't bother. If I didn't care, I'd just rant without any thought or tone of caring.

I've worked hard to emphasize my hostility to THE SELF-DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR and not the individuals.

I've been assaulted by about every horrific name they can get away with hereon. But I'm the bad guy?

What am I missing, not understanding that you are?


432 posted on 10/18/2006 9:05:16 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Quix

This is their choice. They know that it isn't the popular choice, but they have the right to do what they want with their bodies. I am an ex smoker. I gave it up 5 years ago...I'm proud of my accomplishment, but refuse to cast stones at those who haven't made the same choice.

I'm sorry you have been attacked by others on the thread. They obviously feel the need to be defensive due to the continual attacks against them and their choice.

Do you believe you have any chance of converting someone by being on the offense. Could I win souls if I approached people, armed, and tried to force my views on them? This is along that same vein...you wont convert them...they have to want to quit, and the more they are attacked, the deeper they will dig in their heels.


433 posted on 10/18/2006 9:14:01 PM PDT by trussell (Proud to be a Jesus Freak!)
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To: trussell

Well, I'll give a lot of prayerful thought to your exhortation.

I don't expect to convert any of the rabid folks.

But there are many lurkers who are no doubt on the brink of deciding. I have some fantasies that some of my humble words may nudge them over the line.

Thanks for your caring exhortation. I'll certainly ponder it consdierably.


434 posted on 10/18/2006 9:20:20 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: Baynative
Well ... it occurred to me that since all the tobacco legislation and non smoking laws being enacted

Tobacco legislation and non smoking laws??? If anyone gave a damn the product would have been made illegal years ago.

I say ; "anyone born after 1960 should not be eligible for any medical subsistence related to nicotine if they CHOOSE to kill themselves after all the publicity smoking has gotten over the years."

What about AIDS, Alcoholism, Drunk driving, Xtreme sports, Drug abuse, Over eating, Sedentary lifestyle, Tanning, etc.?

Sedentary lifestyle causes more deaths than smoking, says study

435 posted on 10/18/2006 10:03:33 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: Quix
But government is there to help us conform our behavior to the good we already know is the right thing to do. It's not going to help much with a rebellious population that far outweighs the police force in numbers and fierceness to rebel in this or that given way or ways.

Absolutely astounding.

Have you started lobbying your Master Government to establish re-education camps yet?

436 posted on 10/19/2006 4:08:50 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Alter Kaker; elkfersupper
So the addicts are reduced to name calling

I guess you're immune to irony.

437 posted on 10/19/2006 4:10:47 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Madame Dufarge
Have you started lobbying your Master Government to establish re-education camps yet?


438 posted on 10/19/2006 4:13:46 AM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
Thank you!

Carolyn

439 posted on 10/19/2006 4:52:40 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Alter Kaker

"Out of curiosity... why? Your odds of dying from Russian Roulette are considerably less than they are from smoking."

You wouldn't consider the additional 25 years of living to be of value? If not, what is the difference between your position and the pro-murder abortionists?


440 posted on 10/19/2006 5:18:37 AM PDT by CSM ("When you stop lying about us, we'll stop telling the truth about you." No Truce With Kings)
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