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One in Four Smokers Will Get Lung Disease
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Posted on 10/17/2006 1:09:34 PM PDT by trumandogz

TUESDAY, Oct. 17 (HealthDay News) -- A new study finds that at least 1 in every 4 smokers will develop progressive and incurable chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), a much higher risk than previously believed.

COPD is a respiratory disease that results in blocked air flow to the lungs and grows progressively worse.

For this study, published online in the journal Thorax, researchers at Hvidovre Hospital analyzed data on 8,000 men and women, ages 30 to 60. All were monitored for 25 years as part of the Copenhagen City Heart Study.

At the start of the study, all the participants' lungs were healthy and working normally. However, over the course of the 25 years, the lungs of almost all the male non-smokers continued to function normally, compared to 60 percent of men who continued to smoke.

Among women, 90 percent of non-smokers still had healthy lungs at the end of 25 years, compared to 70 percent of smokers.

Overall, 25 percent of the participants developed moderate or severe COPD over the 25 years. Persistent smokers were six times more likely to develop COPD than non-smokers.

During the 25 years, there were 2,900 deaths in the study group. Of those deaths, 109 were directly attributable to COPD, and nearly all those deaths were in people who were active smokers at the start of the study. Only two non-smokers died of COPD.

The study also found a sharp decline in the risk of COPD among people who stopped smoking soon after the start of the study. Over the 25 years, none of these ex-smokers developed severe COPD.


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To: Ditter
I have drawn my own conclusions, your sister did not have asthma.

Neither did she have hysteria, since that is impossible until a later age.

241 posted on 10/17/2006 9:14:31 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: NRA2BFree

My grandmother died from lung cancer. She never smoked in her life.


242 posted on 10/17/2006 9:14:56 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton
So...NY has $5/pack tax on cigs. $5/gal tax, anyone?

I'm a flat tax girl, myself...so it doesn't apply.

243 posted on 10/17/2006 9:14:58 PM PDT by paulat
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To: elkfersupper

I have never heard of asthma in a 2 day old infant either. It develops later too.


244 posted on 10/17/2006 9:17:41 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: paulat
Why not? if 25% of the pop can pay $5/pk for their sins, why not 100% of the pop for equal harm? Sounds pretty flat to me.

A company I used to work for banned smoking in the parking garage - I immediately quit. Clear indication I was working for idiots.

245 posted on 10/17/2006 9:20:23 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton
Why not? if 25% of the pop can pay $5/pk for their sins, why not 100% of the pop for equal harm? Sounds pretty flat to me.

Then you don't understand the flat tax....

246 posted on 10/17/2006 9:22:15 PM PDT by paulat
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To: patton
My grandmother died from lung cancer. She never smoked in her life.

That happens. You can also theoretically get AIDS by accidentally pricking your finger on a rusty nail (that just happens to have an HIV strain on it). But smoking is clearly how the overwhelming majority of lung cancer victims contract the disease, just as unprotected sex is the way the overwhelming majority of AIDS victims get infected with HIV.

247 posted on 10/17/2006 9:22:27 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Ditter
I have never heard of asthma in a 2 day old infant either. It develops later too.

Only if you let it by keeping them in a bubble.

And I said she was "days" old.

I don't remember how many days, I only remember the story as being "days-old".

I'll ask her.

248 posted on 10/17/2006 9:23:23 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: patton
A company I used to work for banned smoking in the parking garage - I immediately quit.

You quit smoking? Congratulations on escaping your addiction!

249 posted on 10/17/2006 9:23:35 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: paulat
Why not? if 25% of the pop can pay $5/pk for their sins, why not 100% of the pop for equal harm? Sounds pretty flat to me.

I guess...to reiterate...that's a consumption tax...not a flat tax.

250 posted on 10/17/2006 9:24:24 PM PDT by paulat
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To: patton
Oops...I did it again...to you Patton....

Why not? if 25% of the pop can pay $5/pk for their sins, why not 100% of the pop for equal harm? Sounds pretty flat to me.

I guess...to reiterate...that's a consumption tax...not a flat tax.

251 posted on 10/17/2006 9:25:36 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Alter Kaker
President of a company I used to work for asked me, "If I ban smoking on the property, will you quit?"

I immediately responded, "Hell, yes."

So he did, and I found a job elsewhere, and took 20 of his employees with me.

252 posted on 10/17/2006 9:28:54 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: paulat; patton
Wait a minute.

Paula, you just made me go through an elementary explanation of wage/price demand, and the theory of taxation, and now you're lecturing on the merits of the fair tax?

Just kill me now.

253 posted on 10/17/2006 9:30:06 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Toby06

The smokers I get in my ambulance are in bad shape, joke if you want but it ain't pretty to die from lung disease. I see it every day. /soap box


254 posted on 10/17/2006 9:31:47 PM PDT by tioga
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To: paulat
Yes, I got that - so is the gas tax. Tie them together.

Actually, if we had any intellectual honesty in our government, the TOFU tax would be about ten times as high.

Watch the dems scream at that. LOL.

255 posted on 10/17/2006 9:33:04 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: elkfersupper; patton
Wait a minute.

Paula, you just made me go through an elementary explanation of wage/price demand, and the theory of taxation, and now you're lecturing on the merits of the fair tax?

Just kill me now.

Dang, dude...here's my thinking: here's why I support a flat (not "Fair") tax. A fixed percentage off the top...and then you do what you like with the rest.

If you want to buy cigs...fine. If you want to buy booze...fine. If you want to buy real estate...fine.

The rest of the money is yours.

256 posted on 10/17/2006 9:35:07 PM PDT by paulat
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To: tioga
Also ain't pretty to watch family farms die due to liberal taxation.

Mine in Herkimer is still abandoned. Pine/Cherry trees growing, will harvest them in time.

/soapbox (GRIN)

257 posted on 10/17/2006 9:36:31 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: paulat

I LIKE keeping my money.


258 posted on 10/17/2006 9:37:46 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton

Everything dies in NY, what with the taxes and all.......and when we get spitzer and co after the next election it will be worse. Bloomberg will most likely export more anti-smoking stuff upstate. It will be delovely doncha know! /sarcasm from a nonsmoker.


259 posted on 10/17/2006 9:39:03 PM PDT by tioga
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To: patton
I LIKE keeping my money.

Me, too...we agree!

260 posted on 10/17/2006 9:39:09 PM PDT by paulat
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