Posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:45 AM PDT by DCBryan1
Edited on 10/02/2006 12:55:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Developing....
School Shooting injures one person,
Hostage situation may be developing.
Update: Multiple Shooting Victims and Possible Hostages in Lancaster County
Not many details available yet, but an incident has been reported from Mine Rd. in Bart Township in Lancaster County involving multiple gunshot victims. Dennis Buterbaugh reports live from our newsroom. abc27 has a news crew on the way. We will update with details as they become available.
Update 2: Pennsylvania Police: Amish School is 'Horrendous Crime Scene' After Shooting
NICKEL MINES, Pa. — At least two female students and one slightly older female — who may have been a teacher's aide — were shot and killed execution style in what police say may be a revenge killing for something that happened 20 years ago.
State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said Monday that truck driver Charles Carl Roberts IV entered the one-room Amish schoolhouse in earlier in the day. The gunman brought in pieces of wood to board up the doors to the building when he entered the school. He also stacked desks against the building's doors.
"It appears that the suspect entered school with the intention of taking hostages," Miller said.
Roberts had wire ties and plastic flex cuff, which he used to begin tying the hostages feet together after they were lined up along a blackboard. He let go 15 male students, as well as one adult female who was pregnant. Three other non-student females with infants were also allowed to leave. One shotgun and one handgun was found next to the suspect when police entered the building.
"It seems as though he wanted to attack young, female victims," Miller said.
After a half hour inside, Roberts began shooting. When the gunfire stopped, three females were found shot dead at the scene, along with the suspect, who shot himself, Miller said. At least seven more victims — some critically wounded — were transported to nearby hospitals, he said. One victim, a young girl, died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said. He could not confirm how many people died en route or at the hospital. The county coroner earlier reported six children killed but then backed off of that statement.
OMG
Seriously, Nickle Mines is VERY out in the middle of nowhere. About as rural as Lancaster County gets nowadays.
I live near and work in this area. There just NO WORDS for this...none. Prayers to all of the communities affected. HUGE PRAYERS
Because they have little use for higher education. They work with their hands primarily; they are usually farmers and craftspeople.
To be more accurate:
40 00'35.13"N, 76 07'44.12"W
Ole Roy?
The murderer was named after dog food marketed by Wall Mart?
Makes sense actually.
surveillance cameras are a joke. first of all, they don't prevent anytning at best they record events. Secondly, for them to be any kind of warnign device, they have to be monitored on a constant basis by people on perpatual alert. difficult to do for long periods fo time without going stir crazy.
And going into lockdown mode takes time, in a situations where time is critical, how long does it take to locate and contact someone with lockdown authority - and how long does it take that person (who will most likely have questions before giving the order) to order a lockdown?
Then there's the mechanism for the lockdown. how do you
communicate a lockdown? Via public address? that also alerts the perp. Then you have to physically do the locking (Many doors are not kept locked, and many teachers don't have keys anyway.
And what do you do with people in public areas? In the hallways? rest rooms? Outside?
And do you really want to notify the police everytime someone "strange" (whatever that means) approaches? Maybe it's a parent you just don't recognize? or the new sales rep for one of your vendors? Or any number of other scenarios?
All you'd do would be to desensitize folks to alarms - for false alarms would be rife.
and you never explained why you wouldn't want your teachers armed. what are you afraid they'd do?
Taxi driver? So would that be within their community? If so, an odd way to describe the position.
Yes, well that is true too.
Some strange posts today.
Are you still here?
Yes, those are certainly contributing factors.
Good movie, but the picture is inappropriate for this thread.
Now THAT's some hard work (especially at harvest time). Only thing harder on the hands is cotton (and nobody does that by hand anymore, as far as I know).
Democratic Underground response to this:
"...maybe KKKarl told his brainwashed operatives to "Play some card" so that the MSM "news" could be filled up with these shootings?!?"
"having "outsider drifters" come in to attack schools, seems an easy way to bring up the topic of targeting "off the grid/nutty" citizens as domestic terrorists legally...tinfoil perhaps...but I can see questionable laws getting passed in the wake of these incidents to "protect children""
"I don't think so, but I believe the shootings are a direct result of bad policy that can be traced to the corrupt, uncaring Republicans in power."
disgusting.
But it would give the victims a chance to stop the terrorist short. Presently, schools are advertised victim zones. If some of the teachers and staff were CCW holders, there would be an opportunity for the victims to fight back.
Actually, from reports coming out now, it looks like Physicist was right - see post 491.
It's only fair.
The Amish are accused on every A Q thread.
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