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Save America with the ‘Fair Tax Act’
The Courier ^ | August 31,2006 | Gordon Bishop

Posted on 09/03/2006 5:18:40 AM PDT by Man50D

Abolish the federal income tax!

No more taxes on savings and investments!

A "Fair Tax" can completely fund the federal government, Social Security and Medicare!

You control how much you spend!

So what are we waiting for?

You, the taxpayers of America burdened with an income tax that is costly, wasteful and sinking America into inevitable bankruptcy. All current forms of federal taxation would end! You would keep 100 percent of your paycheck. You control how you spend your paycheck. It's your money. You make the decisions as to how you want to spend your money.

The Fair Tax would create more jobs and give the USA a level playing field when selling overseas. United States Senator John Linder (R-Georgia) is sponsoring the "Fair Tax Act of 2005." If enacted by Congress, it would accomplish all of the above. Simple. Easy. And affordable.

It's the best way to downsize government without disrupting the economy.

To join the "Fair Tax" movement in America, just sign the "Economic Freedom & Fairness" Petition supporting forward-thinking solutions. Go to www.grassfire.net and liberate the working class of taxpayers. Grassfire is trying to give the working class the same kind of freedom America's founders gave to those who joined the American Revolution in 1776 with the "Declaration of Independence." We won the Revolutionary War, but have lost our country since the 16th Amendment (income tax) became "Law" in 1913.

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To: Always Right

Thanks for the gratuitious insult. I run several business at present.


641 posted on 09/07/2006 10:47:59 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right
"... their paid for whores, I mean 'economists', are very shady with their studies ..."

But not nearly so shady as the Treasury/Brookings Institute combine that propagandizes under color of governmental authority. That's next to criminal if not more so.

And the Jorgenson and other studies clearly set out their assumptions plus their rationale and backup days. The Tax Panel Report do not do so at all. They aren't even clear on what many of their assumptions are - or why. And they certainly throw numbers around like they were spending tax money.

642 posted on 09/07/2006 10:53:01 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: robertpaulsen
No, it really isn't different at all. The 9% is the figure used for embedded taxes on these threads for the proposes of paying or removing embedded taxes.

I showed you earlier (if you read it) how in either case, 9% or 23% the contribution of the illegal economy was negligible - something like $4 rather than $23 on a $100 purchase. Perhaps you should go back and read it.

643 posted on 09/07/2006 10:57:55 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog
Don't try the strawman taxtic of putting words in my mouth.

Back atcha!

644 posted on 09/07/2006 10:59:06 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: balrog666
The figure used here is 9% and has been so for something like the last year or more. You can shout out any number you wish. That doesn't make you correct.

The money from the 23% figure mostly stays in prices after the FairTax becomes law. The 9% does not and that's the way we've shown it in all comparative purchasing power examples.

645 posted on 09/07/2006 11:01:00 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog
And the Jorgenson and other studies clearly set out their assumptions plus their rationale and backup days.

LOL, so clear even to this day you deny what those assumptions were.

646 posted on 09/07/2006 11:02:00 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: lewislynn
Actually, Looey, you "sense" nothing since you ain't got any (sense that is). The FairTax even at the 23% rate is revenue neutral so the government loses nothing.

In fact, the most likely rate is presently 19% rather than 23% ... still revenue neutral. You don't seem to grasp the effect on tax revenue with an expanding economy but a dynamic analysis (which the Tax Panel Report is definitely not) clearly shows it.

647 posted on 09/07/2006 11:04:44 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: balrog666
Funny how piggiepooch can't seem to figure out that simple idea after all these years.

He's actually come along ways towards understanding that. He seems to have conceded that only about 9% out of the 23% can possibly be used to reduce prices. That is something they had been in denial about for years.

648 posted on 09/07/2006 11:07:32 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
Never have denied what his assumptions were ... you're mixing me up with Drummer Boy who kept trying to present the J. studies as meaning that wages would drop as an absolute fact (along with other malassumptions) rather than just an assumption for modeling purposes. They were always just assumptions for his model and not predictions of much in the short term except that the economy would greatly expand in the longer term due to the effects of the FairTax.
649 posted on 09/07/2006 11:10:02 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right
Untrue. The 23% was always a figure offered by he good Dr. J. - and it was an assumption for his method of modeling.

We've been using he 9% for a long time on the purchasing power studies ... and they even look good with lower price declines, too. It's you who don't know what you're talking about.

650 posted on 09/07/2006 11:13:09 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog

Using your logic, we should forget taxing consumers and employees and just tax business because the consumer pays all taxes anyway and taxing business would reduce the government work load and keep the camel's nose out of the individual's tent.


651 posted on 09/07/2006 11:14:22 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: pigdog
Never have denied what his assumptions were ...

Do you write revisionist history for the Clinton administration? That's the a big fat lie. You are the one who had no clue what the difference is between prediction and an assumption is. You are the one who argued for years and years and years that you would get to keep 100% of your current gross AND prices would come down 23%. It's laughable that you would try to change the story. You are a joke.

652 posted on 09/07/2006 11:15:59 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: pigdog

Its true, the tax panel report doesn't mention "backup days". Are those the days when the FairTax supporters back track on previous claims?


653 posted on 09/07/2006 11:18:07 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: pigdog
I showed you earlier (if you read it) how in either case, 9% or 23% the contribution of the illegal economy was negligible - something like $4 rather than $23 on a $100 purchase.

You also claimed it was 87 cents on a $100 purchase.

654 posted on 09/07/2006 11:20:52 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Always Right
Do you write revisionist history for the Clinton administration?

Ask him to explain when a table is not a table.

655 posted on 09/07/2006 11:26:47 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: pigdog
"The 9% is the figure used for embedded taxes on these threads for the proposes of paying or removing embedded taxes."

You never can be fully honest, can you?

Yes, I know you're using the 9% figure for embedded taxes on these threads for the purposes of paying or removing embedded taxes. I told you I didn't disagree with this, didn't I?

But that 9% is from a total of 22% embedded taxes. An employer could choose to keep more than 9% for the purposes of paying or removing embedded taxes, couldn't he?

656 posted on 09/07/2006 11:34:23 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: lucysmom
Ask him to explain when a table is not a table.

When it is a 'spreadsheet listing' of course.

657 posted on 09/07/2006 11:47:46 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: lucysmom
pigdog's analysis is simply amazing. Somehow 23% embedded tax drops down to 4% when drug dealers buys legal goods.
658 posted on 09/07/2006 11:58:58 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: robertpaulsen
But that 9% is from a total of 22% embedded taxes. An employer could choose to keep more than 9% for the purposes of paying or removing embedded taxes, couldn't he?

Yeah, 9% is about what he could reduce prices if businesses were happy earning the same amount. But with his employees pocketing more money and prices going up, will business owners be happy to just maintain their same profits? Seems like a cute way to assume business owners will see their purchasing power decrease.

659 posted on 09/07/2006 12:02:13 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right
He's actually come along ways towards understanding that. He seems to have conceded that only about 9% out of the 23% can possibly be used to reduce prices. That is something they had been in denial about for years.

Yes, he seems to have accepted that. But he doesn't seem to know why.

660 posted on 09/07/2006 12:04:20 PM PDT by balrog666 (Ignorance is never better than knowledge. - Enrico Fermi)
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