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To: PatrickHenry

LOL! Well, did time exist? ...and for the umteenth time,
how did something explode from nothing?


4 posted on 08/04/2006 4:29:32 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: sirchtruth
LOL! Well, did time exist? ...and for the umteenth time, how did something explode from nothing

That is my only remaining hold on Religion. That some intelligence got the ball rolling. After that, I do not see it.

8 posted on 08/04/2006 4:34:43 AM PDT by Vaquero (time again for the Crusades.)
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To: sirchtruth
...and for the umteenth time, how did something explode from nothing?

And for the umpteenth time, there was no "explosion." Spacetime expanded rapidly.

Note to lurkers: sirchtruth will be back with his inane question on the next such thread. No matter how many times he's given an answer he isintrinsically unable to actually assimilate any new data and appears to be stuck, educationally, somewhere in grade school.

10 posted on 08/04/2006 4:38:43 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: sirchtruth
LOL! Well, did time exist? ...and for the umteenth time, how did something explode from nothing?

Simple math:

(Something)+(-Something)=Zero.

If you start with nothing and you have the inherent capability to create Something and the negative of Something (i.e. -Something) then you can indeed create Something from Nothing. Of course to prove that this actually happened you need to go out and find that -Something. We've seen bits and pieces (of anti-matter) but not, as far as I know, a full up universe full of the stuff.

64 posted on 08/04/2006 8:05:12 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: sirchtruth

Faith :)


67 posted on 08/04/2006 8:14:16 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: sirchtruth
LOL! Well, did time exist? ...and for the umteenth time, how did something explode from nothing?

Since the definition of time is the measurement of intervals between events in a continuum, therefore before the Big Bang, before there were any events, there were no intervals between events, therefore, there was no time. Only God existed (exists). Therefore, God exists outside of time. (Except when God the Son entered into time to become a human being.)

78 posted on 08/04/2006 8:49:21 AM PDT by guinnessman
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To: sirchtruth
how did something explode from nothing?

That is already answered. A superior question would be 'why did something explode from nothing.'

82 posted on 08/04/2006 8:55:05 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: sirchtruth; PatrickHenry; Vaquero; Junior; InterceptPoint; Unassuaged; guinnessman; RightWhale
...and for the umteenth time, how did something explode from nothing?

...and for the "umteenth time", your question is grossly flawed, this has been explained to you over and over again.

The astute reader will note that "sirchtruth" has already been told numerous times before that the Big Bang neither involved an "explosion", nor "something from nothing". Here for example is one of my own prior posts informing him of this fact:

Posted by Ichneumon to sirchtruth
On Smoky Backroom 12/17/2005 7:06:50 PM CST · 536 of 2,129

but they'll believe SOMETHING exploded from NOTHING?

Your poor understanding of the Big Bang is as bad as your misunderstandings about most other topics. The Big Bang neither involved an "explosion", or something coming from "nothing". Try learning some physics before you attempt to critique it.

These same people who champion the theory would be the first ones to decry any halftruth in any other field!

Indeed, which is why we decry halftruths (and "notruths") in creationism as well. Thanks for noticing.

For more information, see:
Misconceptions about the Big Bang: Baffled by the expansion of the universe? You're not alone

Evidence for the Big Bang (contains a lot of clarifications on the actual process as well as evidence)

Whether or not "sirchtruth" (now *there's* an inapt screen name) keeps repeating the same inane and double fallacious question over and over again out of a desire to be deceptive, or a complete inability to grasp what it is that modern physics actually says about the earliest moments of the Universe, is left as an exercise for the reader. In any case, he's unfortunately exhibiting the typical behavior of the anti-science crank -- "never mind what science really says about something, I've got my talking points and I'm sticking to them!"
109 posted on 08/04/2006 10:40:17 AM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: sirchtruth
how did something explode from nothing?

That's an easy one;

"And God said, "Let there be light!"

113 posted on 08/04/2006 10:50:25 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I can't complain...but sometimes I still do.)
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To: sirchtruth
...and for the umteenth time, how did something explode from nothing?

The Book of Nothing: Vacuums, Voids, and the Latest Ideas about the Origins of the Universe explains it all, using quantum mechanics. It's a funny book, too, with lots of puns related to nothing (see what I mean).

123 posted on 08/04/2006 11:04:42 AM PDT by AZLiberty (Creating the <a href="http://clinton.senate.gov">straddle</a> Google bomb one post at a time.)
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To: sirchtruth
...how did something explode from nothing?

It always helps to read the article:

Instead of the familiar space-time continuum, the fabric of space is made up of one-dimensional quantum threads. Near the Big Bang, this fabric is violently torn, and these quantum properties cause gravity to become repulsive, rather than attractive.

211 posted on 08/04/2006 2:35:23 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: sirchtruth

You don't understand. Nothing happened before the big bang, yet it was a purely natural phenomenon in spite of the fact that nature did not exist until afterward. In other words, the big bang was caused by its result. Apparently.


221 posted on 08/04/2006 3:52:26 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Nachamu, nachamu, `ammi!)
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