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Hey! FR. Veronica and I were Quoted in VARIETY!!!
VARIETY ^ | July 31, 2006 | Hildy

Posted on 07/31/2006 4:43:47 PM PDT by Hildy

On Saturday, Gibson released a statement apologizing:

"After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a number of things that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I drove a car when I should not have, and was stopped by the L.A. County Sheriffs. The arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel fortunate that I was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person. I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested, and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said, and I apologize to anyone who I have offended. Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies involved for my belligerent behavior. They have always been there for me in my community and indeed probably saved me from myself. I disgraced myself and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry." <> He went on in the statement to say that he has had substance abuse problems in the past. "I have battled with the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I apologize for any behavior unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have already taken necessary steps to ensure my return to health," Gibson said.

The ADL's Foxman, however, was unmoved by the apology. In his own statement, released Sunday, he said, "Mel Gibson's apology is unremorseful and insufficient. It's not a proper apology because it does not go to the essence of his bigotry and his anti-Semitism. His tirade finally reveals his true self and shows that his protestations during the debate over his film 'The Passion of the Christ,' that he is such a tolerant, loving person, were a sham. ... It is unfortunate that it took an excess of booze and an encounter with a traffic cop to reveal what was really in his heart and mind. We would hope that Hollywood now would realize the bigot in their midst and that they will distance themselves from this anti-Semite."

And there were signs that even Gibson's conservative Christian fans were not moved by the response. Reaction in the popular conservative online forum FreeRepublic.com, was also largely negative. In response to the statement, one commenter posted, "Gibson showed his true colors last night during his arrest. I argued with you about 'The Passion of the Christ' and his portrayal of Jews. I stood up for Gibson to you and a number of my Jewish friends. Now, I'm sorry I did."

Another, responding to hopeful comments that Gibson can still change his views, wrote, "Lots of denial going on here. It's difficult when your hero falls so far."


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To: SJackson
I liked Evita too in all of its different presentation, sound track, theater, movie. I like some of Sean Penn's movies, but the man is a fool when he speaks about politics. Now, I see Mel in a whole different light.
281 posted on 07/31/2006 7:32:05 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: Peach
I guess you've missed a few threads that a lot of us were on; the apologists for Gibson were numerous. Some of them even thought what he said wasn't a big deal, especially since he was drunk.

I wouldn't agree with those that were apologizing but I do agree with Chanti....basically if he would not have done The Passion...we wouldn't be having this conversation..the media has zeroed in on this to disqualify it
282 posted on 07/31/2006 7:32:14 PM PDT by StephenTX
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To: KellyAdmirer

Sometimes you'll get someone who orders you not to post to them on pain of tattling, you forget their name and end up in trouble when you ping them again. Then they get mad when you don't ping them...win-win for them. All bullying tactics, really. You see more of that in the evo-freak threads than anywhere else.


283 posted on 07/31/2006 7:32:14 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: Peach

You are correct -- this is the only thread I've seen on the subject. It is all very sad.


284 posted on 07/31/2006 7:32:50 PM PDT by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: Mamzelle
You misused the word "offal". A better and more precise word would have been "visceral"; as in they viscerally feel this....

"offal" isn't just the intestines.

And after your posts to this thread, the rest of us now know exactly what and who YOU are, as well. ;^)

285 posted on 07/31/2006 7:33:19 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Peach
I'll stand by that. I'd forgotten about that thread; thanks for reminding me. I still think it's a great idea to help Mel get over hating an entire race of people

I agree .. it would be a good idea that he and others visit a Holocaust museum

We should never forget what was done to the jews and some folks need realize exactly what happened

I just don't think a Judge should order it as part of a sentence ... it gets into the category of criminal prosecution of hate speech

286 posted on 07/31/2006 7:33:24 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: KellyAdmirer

:O)


287 posted on 07/31/2006 7:33:25 PM PDT by StephenTX
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To: nopardons
Exactly so.......except that with Mel's current outrage, they are uncovering themselves, on these threads. And some of them have lately been outing themselves on Pat Buchanan threads too.

Really? If you're going to make accusations like that how about providing some names?

288 posted on 07/31/2006 7:33:39 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: StephenTX

Not just the MSM, it would appear.


289 posted on 07/31/2006 7:33:47 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: stands2reason

What does "FM to you" mean?


290 posted on 07/31/2006 7:34:08 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: Chanticleer; Peach
Everyone has said that if he said those things, it was despicable. No one's very crazy about the drunk driving, either. Some have noted that alcohol can make one say things one would never say when sober. Others may be skeptical of the MSM. Big shock. I think the main thing is that not everyone is ready to say he is a totally worthless human being or a waste of skin. It seems that if you aren't ready to string him up, you're considered an anti-Semite.

Based on everything I've seen, he said "those things"

Skeptical of the MSM, sure. The police report, which he doesn't contest. Well, Mel expressed his opinion of LEOs.

In my view, he's a jerk.

Who said he's a worthless human being?

I'm told he can reinvent himself, maybe he can.

String him up?

That's nasty.

Very nasty.

I say that cause he's been supportive of his pop.

Pop has said that Alan Greenspan, a Jew, should be strung up.

From the nearest tree.

He's part of the Jewish banking conspiracy, you know.

Honest, Gibson, Jews, lynching, go somewhere else.

During WWII they were giving us this jazz. They said we were attacked. Well alright but we didn't realize that at that time the attack was a put up job by "the man" -I am talking about our beloved FDR who had practically forced the Japanese to attack and destroy the entire Pacific Fleet. They knew they were coming in Washington. FDR pushed us into the war.

It was FDRs own private war. He went there for money. The money power that runs this country. The Fed Reserve and those foreign bankers who own our currency and charge us for it. The foreign bankers who run the international reserve like the Rothchilds and their allies in this country like the Rockerfellers who were Jews and others who own the money.

We have given the whole control to the Fed Reserve. Greenspan tells us what to do.

Someone should take him out and hang him. The Ford Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegies are all communists. They are enemies of the country.

Good thing he didn't suggest hanging the President, the Secret Service would have been at his door.

291 posted on 07/31/2006 7:35:12 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: elhombrelibre

You have a private message from me. ("Freep mail")


292 posted on 07/31/2006 7:35:21 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: elhombrelibre

Sorry, if you don't know what I was saying, it does sound rude, doesn't it?


293 posted on 07/31/2006 7:36:02 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Mamzelle

Evo-freak? My head hurts! Gotta drag myself into this 21st century -- but not tonight.


294 posted on 07/31/2006 7:36:15 PM PDT by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: Mamzelle

Obviously not
I don't like what he said
I don't have anything against Jews

I am having a hard time with the hatred toward him
I think it shows an undertone that has nothing to do with Mel Gibson


295 posted on 07/31/2006 7:36:22 PM PDT by StephenTX
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To: Mo1
I just don't think a Judge should order it as part of a sentence ... it gets into the category of criminal prosecution of hate speech

Let him go to a soup kitchen, clean the streets, or better yet, have a pal give him a script stating he did his thing. Who want's this guy around.

296 posted on 07/31/2006 7:37:12 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: Peach

Must be....... :-)


297 posted on 07/31/2006 7:37:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: StephenTX
It doesn't seem to matter how many times you agree that he disgraced himself and dishonored his work and his family. That's the trouble with agreeing, sometimes. It's never enough when someone drunk on spite has a subtext.

What they really want is for us to denounce The Passion.

298 posted on 07/31/2006 7:38:31 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: stands2reason

Well, I didn't jump to any conclusions.


299 posted on 07/31/2006 7:38:46 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: KellyAdmirer

Ask and ye shall receive............... :-)


300 posted on 07/31/2006 7:40:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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