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Hey! FR. Veronica and I were Quoted in VARIETY!!!
VARIETY ^ | July 31, 2006 | Hildy

Posted on 07/31/2006 4:43:47 PM PDT by Hildy

On Saturday, Gibson released a statement apologizing:

"After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a number of things that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I drove a car when I should not have, and was stopped by the L.A. County Sheriffs. The arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel fortunate that I was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person. I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested, and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said, and I apologize to anyone who I have offended. Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies involved for my belligerent behavior. They have always been there for me in my community and indeed probably saved me from myself. I disgraced myself and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry." <> He went on in the statement to say that he has had substance abuse problems in the past. "I have battled with the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I apologize for any behavior unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have already taken necessary steps to ensure my return to health," Gibson said.

The ADL's Foxman, however, was unmoved by the apology. In his own statement, released Sunday, he said, "Mel Gibson's apology is unremorseful and insufficient. It's not a proper apology because it does not go to the essence of his bigotry and his anti-Semitism. His tirade finally reveals his true self and shows that his protestations during the debate over his film 'The Passion of the Christ,' that he is such a tolerant, loving person, were a sham. ... It is unfortunate that it took an excess of booze and an encounter with a traffic cop to reveal what was really in his heart and mind. We would hope that Hollywood now would realize the bigot in their midst and that they will distance themselves from this anti-Semite."

And there were signs that even Gibson's conservative Christian fans were not moved by the response. Reaction in the popular conservative online forum FreeRepublic.com, was also largely negative. In response to the statement, one commenter posted, "Gibson showed his true colors last night during his arrest. I argued with you about 'The Passion of the Christ' and his portrayal of Jews. I stood up for Gibson to you and a number of my Jewish friends. Now, I'm sorry I did."

Another, responding to hopeful comments that Gibson can still change his views, wrote, "Lots of denial going on here. It's difficult when your hero falls so far."


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To: OldFriend
Bet you picked that up the first time you heard it was Gibson's hands putting in the nails in "The Passion".

You know, here we are over a day and a half later and we still don't really know what Gibson actually said.

The deputy with the 8 page report is the source, and so far he hasn't been placed under oath.

The cops seem to have changed the past eh!?

101 posted on 07/31/2006 5:47:29 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Generalbob

Nope, that isn't what HE meant at all and obviously, you and a few others here, need help understanding the scriptures. And cherry-picking them, to use as any kind of refutation, on FR, is worse than useless.


102 posted on 07/31/2006 5:48:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Cinnamon Girl
His stupid comments didn't endanger anyone's life.

How do you know that? Look at that crazy guy in Seattle. There are crazy people out there, just itching to kill Jews. An international Celebrity blames all the problems in the world on Jews...you don't think that endangers people's lives? You're very naive.

103 posted on 07/31/2006 5:48:06 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

I'll loan you a shotgun the next time you want to fly the flag of Israel.


104 posted on 07/31/2006 5:48:49 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: MarkeyD

Or, they think folks here, if not Christian, are soft on Christianity (like it was some sort of crime).


105 posted on 07/31/2006 5:49:08 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: AmishDude

Oh my. I just went and read that freepers little rant. I always knew he was an anti-Semite. I left him a little "note".


106 posted on 07/31/2006 5:50:05 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: Hildy
I took it down to protect my family.

Shotguns work better.

107 posted on 07/31/2006 5:50:32 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: muawiyah

Not to be picky or anything, but MSNBC reported that what Gibson said was captured on tape and the reporter tonight talked about some of the things that Gibson said. As well as he could report, given the obscenity laced comments Gibson made.


108 posted on 07/31/2006 5:51:11 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: Peach
What reporters "say" absent having been sworn into a court of law, can, as we've all found out so many times, be total BS.

I've been having a "Dan Rather" moment since the Haditha story ~ and I'm not over it yet.

109 posted on 07/31/2006 5:51:20 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Hildy
Do you really believe that The Passion painted
the Jews as murdering Christ?

Christians know Christ GAVE his life NOONE took it

we are not your enemies Hildy..I agree it is very hard to be a Jew and I am sorry for that but our country will fight tooth and nail for Israel and all of her people.

There are also nutcases out there that want to kill Christians..
110 posted on 07/31/2006 5:51:31 PM PDT by StephenTX
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To: Hildy
I was quoting your post #45. Hildy post #45: My enjoyment is that an anti-semite has been outed. His alcoholism is secondary.

Did you read what you wrote? Or were you quoting someone else when you posted that? Perhaps you didn't mean to diminish the seriousness of drunk driving, but I personally find it disturbing that big mouths like Foxman are completely ignoring that aspect of the case. I'm not floored by Gibson's comments because it seems par for the course for him. I found it more disturbing that Medved defended Gibson so much in the past.

111 posted on 07/31/2006 5:52:10 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: JeanS

Hildy and veronica are great. Gibson as an actor is great. As a human, he is an anti-semitic piece of crud.


112 posted on 07/31/2006 5:52:31 PM PDT by Bella_Bru (http://folding.stanford.edu/ - - - -Folding@home. Free Republic team 36120)
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To: muawiyah

Gibson has an agent and publicist. It's all over the internet and television about the comments that Gibson made.

If Gibson didn't make them, he'd have his highly paid staffers denying the reports and possibly instituting law suits.


113 posted on 07/31/2006 5:52:54 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: Hildy; AmishDude
You know very well that way back when we all signed up (1996) there were some rabid antisemites popping up here and there.

It's taken a lot of hard work to drive them out, and I'm not sure we can yet say "See sp0t run" without a "0" in place of the "o".

114 posted on 07/31/2006 5:55:27 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: nopardons

I'm not cherry picking here...

I maintain a very simple understanding of the Bible...which says that we should not judge another.


115 posted on 07/31/2006 5:55:44 PM PDT by Generalbob
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To: Peach

He would have denied the comments in his statement. He acknowledged vague statements so he wants to apologize without addressing the substance.


116 posted on 07/31/2006 5:55:48 PM PDT by AmishDude (The Constitution: It ain't long, it ain't complicated and it don't take a genius to figure it out.)
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To: AmishDude

Exactly.


117 posted on 07/31/2006 5:56:26 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for Israel and all who love her.)
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To: muawiyah

I'm not such an old-timer. I lurked for a few years, but I don't go back to '96.


118 posted on 07/31/2006 5:56:40 PM PDT by AmishDude (The Constitution: It ain't long, it ain't complicated and it don't take a genius to figure it out.)
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To: Generalbob
He only asked us to judge people if we, ourselves, were prepared to be judged.

This business of a total prohibition on "judging" is an invention by anti-Christians and folks outside the pale of Christian orthodoxy. It's part of the heresy called ANTINOMIANISM. (NOTE: it's also spelled ANTINOMINALISM).

119 posted on 07/31/2006 5:57:21 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: muawiyah

and, therefore, you are prepared to be judged?

Is Hildy?

I am not.


120 posted on 07/31/2006 5:58:23 PM PDT by Generalbob
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