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[ Still we have not fully exhausted the “observer problem,” for it has a precise technical component to it of particular interest to science. The problem at this level consists of the fact that the observer, that which he observes, and all the instruments he uses to observe it, are all parts of the same system; and all “interfere” with each other within the system, necessarily changing its state thereby. ]

Lovely display of observation.. Its almost like we(humans) are in a dream world dreaming a dream.. With all manner of observations.. The observations are so different and unique.. Even the groupies that group their observations are not the same.. The groups they belong to split and split again... and re-split..

Human observation is so lonely.. How can you explain you're dream world, exactly.. in human language.. What do you know for sure anyway?...

Even the atheist should say, if honest, if there were no God then their ought to be.. And the Darwinist what is different about man that he will find a God even if raised alone on an island.. All forms of mankind has sought "a God".. according to what he observes..

The observer in seeking God, I think, seeks to expand his abilities of observation.. having observed his abilities are limited.. Those that do not are merely arrogant.. An arrogance of observation..

To wit; its a spiritual problem.. Observation is a spiritual problem.. How you observe judges the condition of you're spirit.. Some spirits are weak, some are strong.. Observing through a human body limits you unless you resort to observing spiritually.. Weak spirits never make it to observing through their spirits.. but are limited to observing through their human bodies and senses.. How do I know this for sure?.. Much experience with both.. I am not alone, many others have the same experience.

The observer problem is huge... not a small problem like the problems between capitalism and socialism.. or you're religion and somebody else's religion.. but HUGE... Sure hope some here recognize this.. A real Dreamy way of putting it above... maybe some will wake up...

The observer in seeking God, I think, seeks to expand his abilities of observation.. having observed his abilities are limited.. Those that do not are merely arrogant.

I think your account of this is luminous, dead-on, hosepipe. But then there is the next question to deal with: What is "god" for observers who have decided to resign from common human existential reality, and make the "exodus" out of the divinely-constituted great hierarchy of being? Is it perhaps all about just "my" ego -- and thus everything is all about "me, me, me!!!!," and the world must turn around ME????? Or maybe even this "god" is Satan himself (perish the thought!)???