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To: hosepipe; YHAOS; Alamo-Girl; TXnMA; xzins; DaveLoneRanger; .30Carbine
The observer in seeking God, I think, seeks to expand his abilities of observation.. having observed his abilities are limited.. Those that do not are merely arrogant.

I think your account of this is luminous, dead-on, hosepipe. But then there is the next question to deal with: What is "god" for observers who have decided to resign from common human existential reality, and make the "exodus" out of the divinely-constituted great hierarchy of being? Is it perhaps all about just "my" ego -- and thus everything is all about "me, me, me!!!!," and the world must turn around ME????? Or maybe even this "god" is Satan himself (perish the thought!)???

1,644 posted on 08/07/2006 6:45:13 PM PDT by betty boop (The universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. -J.B.S. Haldane)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; cornelis
[ What is "god" for observers who have decided to resign from common human existential reality, and make the "exodus" out of the divinely-constituted great hierarchy of being? Is it perhaps all about just "my" ego -- and thus everything is all about "me, me, me!!!!," and the world must turn around ME????? Or maybe even this "god" is Satan himself (perish the thought!)??? ]

I think the ego has gotten a bad name.. maybe Freud defamed it.. The me is all tied up in the metaphor of the "Body of Christ" and the human body in general.. Its just a matter of knowing your place.. Is the arm more important than the wrist, heart, liver?.. like that.. Each part is unique even each hair is unique.. Unique<<- has identity.. Nothing wrong with ego except the ego in a second reality..

The Body of Christ "speaks" to unity and harmony.. Even as in a body each part is being renewed cell by cell.. changing.. else the metaphor would become boring..

Each part (you/me) are changing and attempting to remain in unity and harmony.. neat ain't it.. If YOU had no ego you'd be boring.. Thank God for yer ego.. I tell you its a spiritual matter all this... Does the spirit have ego(identity), absolutely.. Deep subject.. you always deepen the subject.. I like that.. Learning stuff about the spirit is a hoot... Amazing how it just comes to you just sneaks right up on you...

1,645 posted on 08/07/2006 9:10:08 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: betty boop
I ought to have pinged you to my reply to hosepipe, dear betty boop, realizing now that he was making reply to you! :)

The pride of man is a powerful thing. It is even enough to bar oneself from Heaven. As you acknowledge, such pride is actually from the evil one himself, the first to separate from his Maker and God, and all subsequent to him in this pride are in his service - Dylan said it best, "Still gonna have to serve somebody."

Thank God! there is a Way back! in Christ Jesus our Lord and Savior! Oh, that men everywhere would repent and turn back to God! Oh, that men everywhere would lift up holy hands in prayer to the Only One who can answer! Oh that they would humble themselves before Him Who Made the earth and all that is in it! Oh that they would believe the utterly Good News that there is forgiveness and mercy in the Name Above All Names, that at the Name of Jesus they would bow (and bow now!), and their tongues confess, "Jesus Christ is Lord, God has raised Him from the dead!" to the Glory of God the Father, amen!

For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Colossians 1:13-14

For their rescue, Father of Light, in Jesus, we pray!

1,649 posted on 08/08/2006 2:56:40 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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