What are Darwinists so afraid of?

worldnetdaily.com ^ | 07/27/2006 | Jonathan Witt

[andysandmikesmom]

I disagree with you...you have made a personal judgement about which religions are and are not Christian religions...and yes, it is your personal judgement...you have made my point...

It does not matter if a religion is at a steady pace, growing or dwindling downward...that has nothing to do with whether they are Christian or not...

[Coyoteman]

Lets stick to what's typical and representative of most of modern man, OK? There simply are not that many truly distinct religions, with millions of adherents each. Many would question calling something like Buddhism a religion, because most Buddhists do not believe in a supreme being. Confucianism is not a religion either, but an ethical system.

So then you disagree with those on these very threads who include "Darwinism" as a religion? It is certainly not a religion.

(You consider Confucianism an ethical system, I consider study of the theory of evolution a science.)

[freedumb2003]

I think you can find numerous mocking, sarcastic jibes at organized Christianity in this thread and in many other crevo threads.

hellbender, I am going to help you out here, since I am a nice guy.

Creationists (and their silly ID cousins) say, in essence, "we demand that religion be injected into the discussion about evolution." The scientific response is "Oh really? What do you have to bring to the table?" The Creationist response: "Our belief."

Well, that opens the door to comparing any and all "beliefs" to determine their validity. It doesn't mean we don't believe in the Christian God and His son, Jesus. It means we put on our science hat and evaluate "belief" as a valid tool of science, and this ALL beliefs are in play.

Objectively, any and all beliefs are "equal."

Either religion belongs in the theological sphere or it is subject to objective scrutiny that it would be better off avoiding.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"It has no more basis than God and actually less."

Are you saying God has little basis?

"Until it is proven it is nothing more than a religion."

Nothing in science is proven. Are you saying that all unproven theories are *religion*? And is *religion* a bad thing only when it is not YOUR religion?

"Since it is a godless religion it is a cult."

Physics is *Godless* too. Is physics a cult?

[bray]

Have you even read her latest book. Perhaps the best book on liberalism ever written. Ann Rox! Someone buy her a Steak!

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel

[Cowgirl]

Creationists believe in evolution but only within its own kind. The rest of the evolution tale depends on
something from nothing, even the planets. Just how do they explain an eyeball forming on its own? It is totally crazy. It would be laughable if it wasn't so pathetic
to think that people actually believe this stuff.

[Coyoteman]

The following is what comes up from your link:

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Sorry for there typo in the link. Corrected several times this thread, and again here: http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"The rest of the evolution tale depends on
something from nothing, even the planets."

The origin of the universe has absolutely nothing to do with evolution. There is nothing about evolution that depends on *something from nothing*.

"Just how do they explain an eyeball forming on its own?"

It didn't, and evolution doesn't say it did.

[freedumb2003]

Those who believe the Son shall see life; those who do not believe shall not see life but the wrath of God remains on them.

Which has zero to do with TToE, which has been pointed out to you in this thread.

You can comfort yourself and pat your own back in your "saved" superiority all you want -- that is your perogative.

But it has nothing to do with scientific concepts.

You might want to see what Our Lord thought about "humility," something most Evangelicals lack. If need be, I can provide for you the appropriate Biblical references.

[garbanzo]

Have you even read her latest book. Perhaps the best book on liberalism ever written.

As I said, she's good at polemics, but for people who don't like analyzing arguments, they can't tell the difference between bomb-lobbing and true intellectual thought.

[freedumb2003]

And these are just critiques of your god, science. Your faith is far greater than mine. Why do you not even question Darwinism when it has so many holes??

Begging the question. You didn't address my underlying issue. WHERE WAS THE INSULT?

[bray]

Physics is a science because it has evidence as opposed to Darwinism/Atheism. Darwinists are very fundamental with their beliefs due to its lack of evidence and anyone who questions them is immediately identified as a heretic.

Nice try though and actually the Bible is pretty well proven with evidence. Now where is all that fossil evidence proving evolution??

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel

[hellbender]

I didn't blame evolution for all the evil of the 20th century. However, there is a powerful affinity between totalitarian socialist systems and evolution, and such systems are always hostile to Christianity and usually Judaism as well. You can sputter and fume all you like, but those are facts.

"By their works you shall know them," and the fruits of evolutionary thinking, in the absence of any theistic worldview, seem to be anger and discontent, as shown by your own language.

I ask you, how does one arrive at the view that human beings have value and deserve to be free (which is what most conservatives believe), starting just from materialist theories like evolution?

[Jeff Gordon]

Tell me about irreducible complexity at the cellular level.

That would be a waste of time. Showing any facit of Evolution to be false proves nothing about the truth of Creationism.

[bray]

I guess if your an atheist calling God "Petulant" is not an insult. Go look at your other posts and quit wasting peoples time. Now where is all that evidence?

Pray for W and Our Troops
Shalom Israel

[andysandmikesmom]

But you still have not answered the question of HOW creation was carried out, and no doubt, you will not be able to, because I just dont find it in the Bible...

There are way too many Biblical scholars, people with a firm belief in God and in Christ, who do not look at the time schedule of 6 days as being what you prefer to describe them as being...you chose to believe in 6 24 hr days of creation...and many Biblical scholars completely disagree with you on this...so you may be right, and then again, you may be completely wrong...

And then there is the whole notion of how is time, in relation to God...how does God view time...that particular notion has been discussed quite a bit, and it may or may not line up with this 6 24 hr days of creation...

I dont see it as being impossible that God created everything in 6 24 hr days...I see it, that with God, anything and everything is completely possible...but what is possible, may indeed not be, the way that it was...

Millions of Christians, do support evolution, and do consider themselves Christians, having a personal relationship with Christ...

Supporting evolution, in my opinion, does not negate a relationship with Jesus Christ, tho some would have it be that way...

[RFC_Gal]

If what you say is true "there is a powerful affinity between totalitarian socialist systems and evolution" then you should have no problem proving your statement.

Please do so.

[freedumb2003]

You want an example of a direct insult? Here ya go:

*The* missing link?
Yes indeed. The one between your brain and your keyboard. 388 posted on 07/27/2006 8:21:43 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew

Great imitation of Jesus there, Fester.

[xzins]

which has been pointed out to you in this thread.

????

But, you are correct.

Saved is superior to lost.

It is given unto every man at least once to be enlightened by God. That is then an easy road to salvation.

The only question is "Will they resist and be unnecessarily lost?"

But it's already known what you will do. We're just waiting to see how it works out.

[be4everfree]

Creationists (and their silly ID cousins) say, in essence, "we demand that religion be injected into the discussion about evolution." The scientific response is "Oh really? What do you have to bring to the table?" The Creationist response: "Our belief."

You have got to be kidding.

Creationists and their silly Id cousins, are only asking for the ability to ask questions, in the classroom, and to apply scientific skepticism to the TOE like any REAL scientist would.