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Novak: Giuliani Definitely Running in 2008
NewsMax.com ^ | July 9, 2006 | NewsMax.com

Posted on 07/09/2006 10:47:24 AM PDT by kddid

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To: Liz
"Rudy made his bed. Now he's gonna lie about it to further his political ambitions."

The bigger problem is that I don't see any strong conservative candidates yet. We are running out of time.

41 posted on 07/09/2006 11:30:18 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: evad
Who's out there with a Chinaman's chance of winning that would satisfy social conservatives???

As a matter of fact who's out there on "R" side that has a chance of winning ..period?

George Allen, that's who.

42 posted on 07/09/2006 11:30:29 AM PDT by P8riot ("You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone)
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To: P8riot
Well, run for the office then. The choice [in practice, not in theory] has already been limited to among about a dozen candidates with access to the money and infrastructure the run would take. None of the bunch are inspirational [and many are expirational], some are outright evil. Thus the choice is of a lesser evil, pure and simple.
43 posted on 07/09/2006 11:30:47 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: qam1; jla
Actually Rudy turned out to be right, Pataki turned out to be a way bigger Liberal than Mario ever was.

Oh please---Rudy never used that excuse to endorse Mario. The Mario endorsement was Rudy's way to advance himself.

Besides, nobody could be more liberal than Mario. After all, George didn't go to Notre Dame to argue for legialized abortion.

I guess Mario musta endeared himself to Rudy with his pro-abortion oratory.

44 posted on 07/09/2006 11:32:25 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: tkathy
Let's get all the social issues at the state level where they belong.

Instead of repeating this misconception ad infinitum you might wish to read up on and gain an understanding of what Madison and Jefferson thought regarding the inviolability of state's rights. And there were not, and are not now, any stronger proponents of state's rights than the aforementioned gentlemen.

45 posted on 07/09/2006 11:33:13 AM PDT by jla
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To: P8riot
"George Allen, that's who."

Where does Allen stand on the immigration issue? Is he for the Senate version? So far, that has been the downfall of every other "conservative" including Brownback. They come down on most issues okay, but on immigration they avoid being tough.

46 posted on 07/09/2006 11:33:26 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: tkathy
  Posted by Alberta's Child to Sir Francis Dashwood; Blackirish; All
On News/Activism ^ 07/08/2006 9:42:58 AM PDT · 157 of 495 ^

I'm starting to see a trend here among Giuliani supporters. Whenever one of his flaming liberal positions is exposed, the natural response among his supporters has been to explain it away in one of two ways:

1. A flaming liberal position that he took as mayor of New York (openly violating the 1996 Federal law that prohibited cities like New York from establishing themselves as "sanctuaries" for illegal aliens, for example) was really necessary for him to get elected in New York City, and won't affect his performance as president because he'll change his position tomorrow (or next week, or next year, etc.).

2. A flaming liberal position he took as mayor of New York (supporting homosexual marriages and abortion through nine months of pregnancy, for example) will no longer be an issue because "these matters will be left to the states and cities" if he becomes president.

Point #1 is ludicrous because this is exactly what made it so clear that John Kerry was a fraud. I don't understand why anyone in the Republican Party would find that kind of sh!t endearing in a presidential candidate -- especially when it involves a situation in which the candidate in question really belongs in a Federal prison instead of at the top of a major party ticket.

Point #2 is ludicrous because it misses one very important point: Why would anyone expect Rudy Giuliani in a Federal capacity to "leave these issues to the states and cities" if the most radically liberal positions he took as mayor of New York involved issues that weren't even the responsibility of city government (i.e., abortion, illegal immigration, homosexual marriage, etc.)?!?!


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47 posted on 07/09/2006 11:33:42 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: tellw
If GWB can appoint another Supreme Court Justice before 2008 I will vote for Giuliani.

That's why it is so critically important to make sure we hold the Senate with enough conservative votes in 06 to confirm one more conservative justice.

48 posted on 07/09/2006 11:35:29 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: kddid

Who votes in the Republican primaries? Hardcore conservatives only.

Which hardcore conservative is going to vote for Giuliani, who wants to murder even more babies and confiscate your guns for the good of the state? None.

However, if Rudy were smart and really wanted an excellent shot at becoming president, he'd run as a Democrat! Rudy as the Democrat nominee would probably beat anything the Republicans could throw at him.


49 posted on 07/09/2006 11:35:45 AM PDT by MyDogAllah
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To: Diogenesis
Novak = Kerry operative = leaker who outed Plame (after her husband and Time/Life

Also an MSM operative who, like Pat Buchannan gets his paychecks from where?

I just think he is a Jew hater and don't trust him from the get-go...

50 posted on 07/09/2006 11:36:05 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: proxy_user

---On the other hand, all the street criminals mysteriously disappeared during his reign. They didn't all go to jail, either.---

Florida?


51 posted on 07/09/2006 11:38:13 AM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: AmericaUnited

That's why it is so critically important to make sure we hold the Senate with enough conservative votes in 06 to confirm one more conservative justice........

Give up the senate in 06 and the reps are in far reaching trouble.


52 posted on 07/09/2006 11:38:53 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

I think you are wrong about Bob Novak. He was the lone conservative voice for years on CNN's "Crossfire", and one of only two on the McLaughlin Group.

He may not be 100% conservative on every issue, but he is certainly not a "Kerry operative" or an "MSM operative".


53 posted on 07/09/2006 11:39:40 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: jla

Excellent compilation of the reasons why Rudy is a loser.


54 posted on 07/09/2006 11:39:48 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

New York City has been and still is a caldron of horrible social and crime problems.

I think Rudy has the wisdom to approach the presidency of the country much differently.


55 posted on 07/09/2006 11:41:22 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: claudiustg
Giuliani is cut from the same gun grabbing cloth as Chuckie Schumer, and from what I can gather he is is pro-amnesty.

Rudy on Immigration From his website.

56 posted on 07/09/2006 11:41:35 AM PDT by P8riot ("You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone." - Al Capone)
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Wake up people. A liberal Republican like Giuiliani could hurt us FAR worse on gun control, federal support of abortion, and gay marriage than any Democrat EVER could.

If a Democrat president tried to pull off any of these stunts, we'd rally in one voice to resist and defeat him. But a liberal Republican president only needes the support of a minority of "progressive" (RINO) Republicans to vote with the Democrats to implement liberal solutions on a national scale.

And do you really think Giuiliani would put another Scalia or Alito on the Supreme Court? Don't count on it. At best you're going to get a squishy soft-headed "moderate" like Kennedy who will join with the liberal justices to continue the assault on states' rights and prerogatives.

Giuliani would be a terrible choice. Even McCain would be less risky.

57 posted on 07/09/2006 11:43:27 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: TommyDale

---Virginia Republican Senator George Allen, differentiated himself from the other Senate presidential wannabees on immigration reform, likely to be a major issue in the 2008 election. Allen is the only Senatorial presidential candidate to vote against the Senate immigration reform bill.---

Allen may be it for the Republicans.


58 posted on 07/09/2006 11:45:48 AM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: TommyDale
I think you are wrong about Bob Novak.

And I very well might be, but I still do not trust him just the same...

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He was the lone conservative voice for years on CNN's "Crossfire", and one of only two on the McLaughlin Group.

That settles where his paychecks come from...

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Since the New York Republicans are so happy to sit on their hands and actually let Hitlery Clintong be their senator why the hell should the rest of the Republicans suffer their incompetence on the national stage???

59 posted on 07/09/2006 11:46:06 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: TommyDale

Rudy is the best we have. There is no one candidate that is fully 100% conservative. And if there was one, that candidate may win the primary but is not winning the election. Too many moderates out there that would go third party and give the election to the RAT.

Rudy is tough on defense and tough on terrorism which is the primary concern right now. Gun laws are favoring conservatives across the nation and Rudy is not going to interfere with that.

As far as abortion and gay marriage, people have to come to grips that in the end, when you meet your maker, you will be judged on your actions. That shouldn't be state or federal mandated, but between a man and god. If Republicans would say that in an open forum, liberalism will die because groups like ACT and NARAL will no longer get funding.

Either way, a President will not have an impact on it. Best part is, taking this into consideration, Rudy neutralizes any left wing candidate and with his strong stance on national security and demostrated leadership, this election will be a landslide.


60 posted on 07/09/2006 11:48:10 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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