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Novak: Giuliani Definitely Running in 2008
NewsMax.com ^ | July 9, 2006 | NewsMax.com

Posted on 07/09/2006 10:47:24 AM PDT by kddid

There's no doubt about it, writes columnist Robert Novak: Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani is running for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008.

Novak made this declaration in his July 8 nationally syndicated column, reporting that friends of Giuliani confided he has told them of his intention to run for the White House.

Giuliani - dubbed "America's Mayor" for his cool courage and spectacular leadership during his city's 9/11 emergency - leads at least one national poll, beating runner-up Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., by a healthy five points, Novak reports, citing last month's national Gallup poll that measured presidential preferences by registered Republicans.

In the poll Giuliani had 29 percent, McCain 24 percent, and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich a mere 8 percent. Novak added that all year Giuliani has run either first or second to McCain, with the rest of the presidential possibilities far behind in national polls.

Giuliani brought the delegates to their feet at the 2004 Republican National Convention with his stem-winding speech attacking the Democrat party, John Kerry and John Edwards while heaping praise on President Bush. He has wide popular appeal nationally.

But all is not moonlight and rose for the moderate New York Republican. The path to the Republican nomination could prove hard to travel for Giuliani due to his present liberal stands on such hot button issues as abortion, gay rights and gun control. Novak writes that GOP strategists warn he must change his position on at least one of these issues if he hopes to win the nomination.


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I don't know if I want to vote for Giuliani, but I suppose I would if he was the candidate. There has to be a better choice out there. I hear/read different names of possible candidates, but they are unknowns nationally. Perhaps (I hope) that person will emerge after the midterms.

I wonder how many Republicans will be vying for the nomination. Will there be more or less than the Dems had running in '04? They had 9, I think.

1 posted on 07/09/2006 10:47:28 AM PDT by kddid
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To: kddid

We've got to do BETTER than Giuliani. He cannot have my guns.


2 posted on 07/09/2006 10:49:42 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270, God Bless America and All Who Have and Will Defend Her.)
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To: kddid
Novak = Kerry operative = leaker who outed Plame (after her husband and Time/Life
3 posted on 07/09/2006 10:51:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: JOE43270

All the social issues should be states rights issues. I don't think he wants your guns. And abortion should be decided at the state level.

Go Rudy!


4 posted on 07/09/2006 10:52:31 AM PDT by tkathy (The "can do" party can fix anything. The "do-nothing" party always makes things worse.)
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To: JOE43270

The gun issue is dead even with democrats.


5 posted on 07/09/2006 10:53:26 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: kddid

He has to change his position on abortion. Bottom line I think the whole country is souring on the womans right to choose issue. I think Joe Public has learned that the choice comes before the conception not after. GOP needs to be out in front with statistics of women using Abortion as a form of birth control. Anyway if he changed his tune on abortion he may be a viable candidate.... Wouldn't mind seeing a Mcain/Guilani ticket... might go over nice... but still hoping for Mcain/Condi ticket.


6 posted on 07/09/2006 10:53:31 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (The mild 2006 Hurricane Season is a Karl Rove ploy to refute liberal Global Warming Claims.)
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To: kddid

7 posted on 07/09/2006 10:53:57 AM PDT by KantianBurke (We Cannot Civilize, But We Can Neutralize)
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To: JOE43270
"We've got to do BETTER than Giuliani."
Well, one could do worse than getting him, too. Hillary is the absolute evil.
8 posted on 07/09/2006 10:54:37 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: kddid

Rudy would not be my first choice but I would vote for him. My big concern is that some on the right would try to get a third party candidate to run which would insure a Hillary type person as the next president


9 posted on 07/09/2006 10:54:41 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: tkathy

Ditto that. Everything should be at the state level except for national defense.


10 posted on 07/09/2006 10:56:37 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: kddid

If GWB can appoint another Supreme Court Justice before 2008 I will vote for Giuliani. Otherwise it will have to be someone more reliably conservative.


11 posted on 07/09/2006 10:56:53 AM PDT by tellw
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To: kddid

Not my preferred choice, but I'd vote for Rudy over McCain or Hillary any day! (so far...)


12 posted on 07/09/2006 10:57:38 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: kddid
If he runs, this will be like 1976 all over again -- a socially liberal/country club republican vs. the choice of socially conservative republicans choose.

It will be a nasty fight for the heart of the party, and the only KIA and wounded will be the party.

But, the party has been itching for an internal fight since RWR (head bowed in rememberance)left office in 1988.

13 posted on 07/09/2006 10:58:05 AM PDT by CWW (GOP 2008 Dream Ticket -- George Allen (Pres) and Mark Sanford (V.P.))
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To: tomnbeverly

NO MCCAIN!!! Forget about it!


14 posted on 07/09/2006 10:59:05 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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Wouldn't mind seeing a Mcain/Guilani ticket.

Are you nuts? McCain is as loony as Dean and Murtha.

McCain should have married this one:


15 posted on 07/09/2006 10:59:53 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: KantianBurke

Excellent!


16 posted on 07/09/2006 11:00:07 AM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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To: DTogo
Not my preferred choice, but I'd vote for Rudy over McCain or Hillary any day! (so far...)

Ditto!!! But, I hope there is a broader field of viable candidates (probably a vain hope...)!

17 posted on 07/09/2006 11:01:19 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: kddid
The Quotable Rudolph W. Giuliani

The New York State Liberal Party on Rudy Giuliani:

Some ask, How can the Liberal Party support a candidate who disagrees with the Liberal Party position on so many gut issues? But when the Liberal Party Policy Committee reviewed a list of key social issues of deep concern to progressive New Yorkers, we found that Rudy Giuliani agreed with the Liberal Party's stance on a majority of such issues. He agreed with the Liberal Party's views on affirmative action, gay rights, gun control, school prayer and tuition tax credits. As Mayor, Rudy Giuliani would uphold the Constitutional and legal rights to abortion.
--N.Y.S. Liberal Party Endorsement Statement of R. Giuliani for Mayor of New York City April 8, 1989

On the Republican Party:

Mr. Rockefeller represented "a tradition in the Republican Party I've worked hard to re-kindle - the Rockefeller, Javits, Lefkowitz tradition."

--Rudy Giuliani
New York Times
July 9, 1992

What kind of Republican? Is [Giuliani], for instance, a Reagan Republican? [Giuliani] pauses before answering: "I'm a Republican."

--Village Voice
January 24, 1989

On Attending 1996 Republican Convention:

Rudy even expressed his pleasure when he wasn't invited to the Republican National Convention in San Diego. "If I take three or four days off from city business, I want to do it for a substantive purpose. It didn't seem to me any substantive purpose could be served by going to the Republican convention."

--Rudy - An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Page 459, Wayne Barrett

On Barry Goldwater:

He [Giuliani] described John Kennedy as "great and brilliant." Barry Goldwater was an "incompetent, confused and sometimes idiotic man."

--New York Daily News,
May 13, 1997

On President Bill Clinton:

Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, [Giuliani] told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." The Daily News quoted [Giuliani] as saying that March: "Whether you talk about President Clinton, Senator Dole.... The country would be in very good hands in the hands of any of that group."

Revealing at one point that he was "open" to the idea of endorsing Clinton, he explained: "When I ran for mayor both times, '89 and '93, I promised people that I would be, if not bipartisan, at least open to the possibility of supporting Democrats."

--Rudy - An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani,
Wayne Barrett, Page 459

Rudy Giuliani's October 1994 Endorsement of Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo:

"From my point of view as the mayor of New York City, the question that I have to ask is, ‘Who has the best chance in the next four years of successfully fighting for our interest? Who understands them, and who will make the best case for it?' Our future, our destiny is not a matter of chance. It's a matter of choice. My choice is Mario Cuomo."

--Rudy Giuliani: Emperor of the City
Andrew Kirtzman, Page 133

Reaction to Giuliani Endorsement of Cuomo:

"Once again, Rudolph Giuliani has demonstrated that liberalism is the foundation of his political philosophy. While Giuliani sold a bill of goods to trusting Republicans and Reagan Democrats that he had abandoned his roots as a McGovern Democrat, in his endorsement of Mario Cuomo, Mr. Liberal himself, he has shown his true colors. Giuliani's argument that Cuomo will be better for the city has a hollow ring to it. Perhaps Rudy wants a governor who will sign over a blank check to constantly bail out the city from its fiscal problems. Giuliani knows, as do all New Yorkers, that Cuomo's liberal policies have been an economic disaster for our city and state."

"But Rudy doesn't care. He has proven he will do anything to stop the election of a conservative Republican - but he won't succeed."

--Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party Press Statement,
October 25, 1994

"[Quite] frankly, you have to understand the fact that Rudy Giuliani was a McGovern Democrat, he was endorsed by the Liberal Party when he ran for Mayor. In his heart, he's a Democrat. He's paraded all over this country with Bill Clinton and, in fact, he's very comfortable with Mario Cuomo. But what Rudy Giuliani wants is to be bailed out in the city, in the mess he's in, and everybody understands very clearly in politics that they struck a deal, that Mario's going to continue to be the big spender, save Rudy the options of raising taxes by pouring money statewide into the City of New York and bailing it out. Quite frankly, I predict that he will join the Democratic Party."

--Interview with Michael Long, Chairman N.Y.S. Conservative Party,
CNN Crossfire, October 25, 1994

On Gay Domestic-Partner Rights:

National Republicans can lump it if they don't like his new domestic-partners bill, Mayor Giuliani said yesterday.

"I really haven't thought about what the impact is on Republican politics or national politics or Democratic politics," Giuliani said.

The bill he submitted to the City Council would extend the benefits city agencies must grant to gay and lesbian couples.

"I'm proud of it," Giuliani said of the bill. "I think it puts New York City ahead of other places in the country."

--New York Daily News, May 13, 1998

On Gay-Rights\Gay Rights Bill:

Giuliani favors extended civil-rights protection for gays and lesbians. Giuliani urged, by letter, to the New York Senate Majority Leader to pass the state's first ever gay rights bill, but did it privately.

"I am writing to convey my support for the current legislation to prohibit discrimination against gays and lesbians, and to urge you to allow the bill onto the floor of the Senate for prompt action."

"...It is my belief that we can penalize discrimination [against gays] without creating any potentially objectionable special privileges or preferential treatment."

--New York Post, June 5, 1993

Now Rudy Giuliani has jumped on the bandwagon, pressing the state Republican Party to release a gay-rights bill to the Senate floor for a vote. Marching in Sunday's [Gay Pride] parade, he has enlisted in the struggle to destroy the family. What a perfectly abominable springboard to seek high political office.

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, June 30, 1993

Giuliani said homosexuality is "good and normal."

--Ray Kerrison
New York Post, July 7, 1989

On Gay Domestic Partnership:

"I have no objection to the concept of domestic partnership."

--Rudy Giuliani
Informed Sources
New York T.V. Show (PBS), May, 1992

On Abortion:

Leaflets distributed by the Giuliani campaign .... said that he opposes restrictions to Federal Medicaid financing for abortions and opposes the Hyde Amendment, which is intended to deny support for that financing.

--New York Times, June 18, 1993

"I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."

"I never called for the overturning of Roe vs. Wade."

--Rudy Giuliani
New York Newsday, September 1, 1989

As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal.

--New York Times, August 4, 1989

On Partial Birth Abortion:

Mr. Giuliani has said that New York State law should not be changed to outlaw the procedure.

-- New York Times, January 7, 1998

On School Choice:

"I wanted to know if he supports tuition tax credits and vouchers, which he doesn't."

--Sandra Feldman,
President of N.Y.C. Teacher's Union, 1993

On Taxes:

[Giuliani] says ruling out a tax increase is "political pandering."

--Newsday, August 31, 1989


Source

18 posted on 07/09/2006 11:02:01 AM PDT by jla
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Rudy Giuliani: The Knight and ‘The Queen’     11/28/2001

According to The London Times, New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani gives kisses before he leaves every morning, but to neither his estranged wife, nor his girlfriend. Instead, says The Times, “Sir Rudy” gives a peck on the cheek to the two homosexual men he’s living with.

“We always get a little kiss, it’s cute,” says wealthy car dealer Howard Koeppel, with whom Giuliani has been sharing an apartment since June. When Giuliani was recently knighted, Koeppel tells The Times that he told “Sir Rudy” to call him “Queen Howard.” Koeppel (63) and his homosexual lover Mark Hsiao (41) have been comforting Giuliani, and trying to make him laugh, in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks.

On the way to a recent fundraising dinner for the pro-homosexual state lobby group, The Empire State Pride Agenda (ESPA), Koeppel ribbed Giuliani by saying that if the ESPA was able to raise $100,000 donation for the homosexual victims of the September 11 attacks, Giuliani should agree to appear on Showtime’s controversial Queer as Folk dressed in drag. Surprisingly, Giuliani agreed.

Marty Algaze of Gay Men’s Health Crisis once summed up Queer as Folk — a show that touts graphic sexual activity as one of its biggest draws — as one that would “shock a lot of people.” Showtime’s Queer as Folk was inspired by the original series in Britain, which featured a storyline in which a 29-year-old man has a sexual relationship with a 15-year-old boy.

The propensity to shock people is not new to Giuliani, who likes to dress in women’s clothes as a stage act, and even did so once at a Pride Agenda fund-raiser.

According to the Times, Giuliani has attended every “gay pride” parade in New York during his eight years as mayor. In 1992, during his first run for mayor, Giuliani took part in a homosexual “pride” parade that included a contingent of pedophile activists marching behind a banner for NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association).

Ken Ervin

 

Concerned Women for America
1015 Fifteenth St. N.W., Suite 1100
Washington, D.C. 20005
Phone: (202) 488-7000
Fax: (202) 488-0806
E-mail: mail@cwfa.org

19 posted on 07/09/2006 11:02:52 AM PDT by jla
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..a socially liberal/country club republican vs. the choice of socially conservative republicans choose.

Who's out there with a Chinaman's chance of winning that would satisfy social conservatives???

As a matter of fact who's out there on "R" side that has a chance of winning ..period?

20 posted on 07/09/2006 11:04:21 AM PDT by evad
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