Yankee clauses dashed [Local landowner REALLY didn't like yankees...]

The Island Packet ^ | 07/06/2006 | JIM FABER

[cowboyway]

but in the campaign from Wilderness to Cold Harbor, the South no longer collected casualty numbers. That hinders accurate study.

And usually, when applying a tolerance value, it is plus or minus, which means that the number killed could actually be quite lower.

The Southern commanders also didn't collect much data on the number of their soldiers that they murdered themselves to keep them from returning to their homes

Please cite historical data to support this biased allegation.

Of course, when yankee soldiers were caught for desertion, they were properly executed, not murdered in cold blood, right Cindy?

[M. Espinola]

That was a very interesting overview on the real Stand Watie. It's clear why one of the most notorious the neo-confederate's choose to use his name, since he was an Indian slaver who fit in perfectly with Dixie's Slave Empire.

More Data:

 

The Kansas Black volunteer regiment was finally officially brought into Federal service in 1863 as the First Kansas Colored Volunteers and saw extensive duty in the East as was mentioned in the movie "Glory".

In the Indian Territory, of what is now Oklahoma, Indians were recruited by both the North and the South.  Tribal hatreds created by earlier Indian relocations and removals had split tribal loyalties and as a result they chose different sides in the War.

In 1862, Stand Watie and his Cherokee battalion from the Indian Territory was making its way into Missouri to fight for the Confederate cause.

Jim Lane of Kansas was concerned about the defense of the Kansas border and called on President Lincoln to allow him to raise Indian units to defend against the Cherokee battalion that was across the Southeast Kansas border.

Lincoln finally agreed, and two Indian regiments, one Creek and the other Cherokee, were formed.  They enlisted about 15 hundred Indians and supplemented their forces with additional units of White soldiers.

They were a rag-tag looking organization.  The uniforms that were issued by the Federal government seemed to be either too large or too small.   Their faces were painted like plains Indians.  They went after Stand Watie, who soon thought twice about engaging the newly formed Kansas Indian unit and headed back to the Indian Territory. Without firing a shot the Indian volunteers captured Tahlequah, Stand Watie's Cherokee capital.  Of the 3,530 Indians that ultimately fought for the Union, more than a thousand were killed.  An extremely high number for any troop unit in the conflict.

On the Western border between Missouri and Kansas the war was down right brutal and personal.

The years of border hatred that came from "Bleeding Kansas" continued... only this time it had a new name - "Guerilla Warfare"

More...

The winter of 1859-60 saw the issue of slavery take on the national attention of both full-blood and mixed-bloods alike. .....Fueled by the Baptist Jones' opposition to slavery and ignited by the full-blown disfranchisement, the Keetoowah Society became Northern sympathizers and abolitionist among the slave-owning mixed-bloods
Principal Chief John Ross, ever aware of his full blood power base, resolved to remain neutral in the American Civil War, then looming on the horizon.

Through the pressures of Stand Watie, a Cherokee Confederate General and Treaty party leader, and the almost total abandonment of the Cherokee Nation by Federal troops, Ross signed a treaty with the Confederacy and joined the war. Almost immediately after signing the Confederate treaty, Ross denounced it as a fraud.
 With such great pressures from the outside, the Cherokee Nation fractured along many lines. The old hatreds from the removal broke to the surface with a fury. Many murders were committed in the name of warfare that were really nothing more than revenge killings.

Stand Watie and his troops rampaged through the Cherokee country killing and pillaging his OWN people and burning the homes of those he blamed for the deaths of his relatives, Major Ridge, John Ridge, and Elias Boudinot, all signers of the removal treaty.

 Full bloods fled north into Kansas, while mixed-bloods, with their slaves, fled south into Texas, leaving the Cherokee Nation ripe for the picking. The Cherokees returned home after the war to a scene of total devastation. The Cherokee Nation was now totally divided along blood lines and political sympathies. Full bloods controlled the government under acting Principal Chief, Watt Pegg. The mixed-bloods demanded consideration and recognition of their chief, Stand Watie.

The full bloods wanted the National government turned back over to John Ross and abhorred the thought of Stand Watie as chief.

Surrender of Reb General Stand Watie

At least the real Stand Watie realized the rebs lost the Civil War and threw in his bow and arrow. These nuts on here are still demanding civil war in America.

[M. Espinola]

'Every time you post, you look MORE ignorant, BIGOTED & a bigger FOOL.'

I know kid, I know, but you keep posting! LOL

[stand watie]

and ALL of them died needlessly. if lincoln, the TYRANT, had chosen PEACE, there would have been no war.

a MILLION people died for his FOLLY.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

and you're still a NITWIT, a HATER & FR's biggest EMBARRASSMENT.

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

lol AT you (as every other FReeper with an IQ above room temperature does.)

don't you get tired of being the BUTT of jokes on FR???

free dixie,sw

[M. Espinola]

This is a perfect description of what the majority who are cognizant of your insane antics truly feel that....you're still a NITWIT, a HATER & FR's biggest EMBARRASSMENT.

Kirk Lyons clone.

[stand watie]

sorry, but 90% of FReepers think you should head to DU, as you are a BIGOT & a FOOL, 1st Class.

frankly, many people disagree with my opinions BUT they don't think i'm STUPID.

YOU,otoh, they mostly think of, as a "empty-head & a BIGOT".

free dixie,sw

[Donald Meaker]

Lincoln didnt fire on Ft. Sumpter. Lincoln wasn't first to order slavery for whites (conscription).

Lincoln didnt serve as president without a supreme court.


The term "Tyrant" means a man who sets himself up as the head of government. Lincoln was elected in accordance with the laws of the United States. Jeff Davis is the guy who tried to become a tyrant, in defiance of the Constitution of both the US, and even the pretended constitution of the so called "Confederate" states.

Come on. Try to know what some of the simple words mean.

[Donald Meaker]

I hold that US soldiers, fighting for an established nation, were bound to do their duty, or suffer the consequences.

The southern criminals, fighting for no cause but their own power, had no legal authority to enforce their criminal conspiracy.

The southern criminals treated southern soldiers who left the "cause" the same way that they treated US soldiers fighting in uniforms, if most of the soldiers were black. They murdered the men who decided to no longer support their criminal conspiracy, in cold blood. Yes, that is what it was, Murder.

Grant was able to parole southern soldiers at Vicksburg, with no exchange. They were, as he put it, mighty tired of the war.

Of course, some violated their parole, but probably fewer than the number of US soldiers that would have been necessary to guard the rebels. That magnanimous act occured at about the same time that US soldiers were being denied simple things like water, at Andersonville.

The Commander there did everything he could, he said. Everything except let them go, as Grant let southern soldiers go. Hell is full of people like him.

You know who you are.

[Donald Meaker]

Lincoln took office in March. Surely the reasoned gentlemen of South Carolina would not act without some overt unconstitutional act?

Or would they? Perhaps they had that time machine, or that special U-boat we have heard little SW talk about.

For the rest of us, we know the person who does something first, starts it. And bears the guilt for it.

[Donald Meaker]

I, for my part, think you have such a good memory that you remember many things that never occured at all.

Fortunately, they have medicine for that now, and you are a simple prescription away from better mental health.

[Donald Meaker]

West Point is not a yankee school. It is a National School.

Jeff Davis, Lee, Jackson, Pemberton, Grant, Winfield Scott, Thomas, Sherman, Beauregard, Johnston (both of them), Sheridan, and J.E.B Stuart all attended.

At that time they taught tactics, mathematics, and engineering very well. Alas, at that time they didn't teach political science, law or loyalty to the Nation all that well.

[Donald Meaker]

Making up elections again SW? Shame shame shame.

[Donald Meaker]

I do, I do! I do think you are stupid!


One vote for SW as stupid.

And another! Another vote for SW as in desparate need of medication!

[Donald Meaker]

They didn't segregate the Blacks because there weren't enough to get more than a corporal's patrol.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

Yes, the Oh so brave confederates murdered the white officers of the black regiments. It was a damn war

War is rough. A fact the 19th century crybaby Confederates forgot during Shermans march and Reconstruction.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

Following Sequoyah's development of a syllabary in 1821, Cherokees took enthusiastically to reading and writing. When Stand Watie began writing is not certain, but his only surviving letters date to the Civil War

We may not know when he bagan writing, but we can be pretty confident that the first words he wrote were "free dixie", "DAMNYANKEE", and "SCALAWAG".

[stand watie]

a TYRANT is a person who decides that he/she is "running everything, regardless of what the RIGHT thing to do is & disregards what the persons who put him/her in office want". lincoln fits that description to a tee.

there would have been NO FIRING on Ft Sumter, if lincoln, the TYRANT, had not LIED REPEATEDLY (in writing, so there is NO dispute as to whether he LIED or not. he LIED constantly!)& said that he would NOT resupply the fort. (btw, the fort was being NICELY supplied from the merchants in Charleston! even chocolate,fresh pastries,oysters & "LACE gift items" were being delivered the day before the firing!)

face it, DM, lincoln & his merry bunch of CORRUPT politicians were SOLELY responsible for the UNJUST,imperialist war that KILLED a MILLION people, needLESSLY!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

and, as usual for you & the other DY-apologists on FR, you would be 100% WRONG!

your base premises are false, thus everything you post is therefore, FALSE!

free dixie,sw