Posted on 07/06/2006 7:01:52 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
It appears that the Northern invasion of the South is complete -- at least it is on a patch of land known as Delta Plantation in Jasper County.
There, a diehard rebel named Henry E. Ingram Jr. made his last stand against the onslaught of Yankees, only to be thwarted by a man from Long Island, N.Y., and now -- gasp -- a French Canadian.
Ingram promised to keep Yankees out of Delta Plantation in Jasper County when he bought 1,700 acres there in 1998. His resolve to keep them out still is strong, but the covenants he put on the land don't seem to have any teeth.
Those covenants did, however, scare Canadian-raised Bluffton resident Louise Legare a bit as she was close to signing a contract to buy a three-bedroom, two-bathroom house on the land from Bluffton Home Builders.
The list of rules she got from the builders was missing the first pages, so she went to the Jasper County Courthouse to get the missing ones. There, she found the covenants, or rules, that Ingram demanded of buyers:
1. They could not be Yankees.
2. They could not have the last name Sherman (an obvious reference to Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman).
3. And the land could not be sold or leased to those whose last names could be rearranged to spell Sherman.
Clearly, Ingram doesn't like Northern folk.
Now, however, Legare and Bluffton Home Builders are working with Ingram's son, Ashley Ingram, to remove the covenants. The former Delta Plantation is on both sides of U.S. 17, just north of the Georgia state line.
"When (Legare) brought it to us, we all kind of had a good laugh," said Jim Hobbs, a partner in the home-building firm.
In fact, Legare is buying the land and home from Bill Cook, another partner in the company, who happens to be a native of Long Island, N.Y. No one at Bluffton Home Builders had seen the covenants before Legare found the missing pages, and no one has ever tried to enforce them, Hobbs said.
If Henry Ingram had his way, he still would keep Yankees off of the 1,700 acres he once owned. His holdings on the plantation have dwindled to 10 acres.
Ingram, now a resident of Corpus Christi, Texas, said his son and attorney, who are both local, should be looking out for his anti-northerner wishes now.
"Yankees destroy everything they have up North, then they come down here," Ingram said. "When they destroy everything (in the South), where are they going to move next? Another country?"
Legare, who grew up north of Montreal, figures her far-northern upbringing must be especially abhorrent to Ingram.
"I must be more of a Yankee," she said. "I'm the person he really doesn't want to live there."
Amazingly, Legare is a much better choice to own Southern land than a New Yorker, according to Ingram.
"French people are much better and more desirable than a Yankee," said Ingram, who once owned video-poker casinos in Jasper County. "They don't stick their noses in other people's business."
The same feature drew Legare and Ingram to the land -- nature. Ingram said he's seen Carolina panthers, bald eagles and fox squirrels on the land. It is that quiet beauty Legare is after.
"I was raised in a very nature-like environment," Legare said. "I think the nature is beautiful in South Carolina."
Ingram, who says he is leaving Texas for Costa Rica soon, cites the boorish manners of Yankees as one of his prime dislikes for them.
"They look down their little pointy noses at the people in the South because we are polite and nice to them," Ingram said. "They think people who are polite and nice are dumb."
Contact Jim Faber at 706-8137 or jfaber@islandpacket.com. To comment on this story, please go to islandpacket.com.
It's not that ridiculous. Christianity has been outlawed and Christians have been enslaved, imprisoned and executed in many parts of the world for thousands of years.
I certainly wouldn't consider it rural. What I was saying is that by the census criteria for determining urban versus rural areas (criteria I disagree with), that yes, conceivably a large business district with little or no permanent population could qualify under rural population criteria.
no matter what the formula, "BIG D" isn't a rural area by any criteria, that makes COMMON SENSE!
free dixie,sw
Noun (Plural: Civil Wars) An internal war between two factions within a country, ie The English Civil War and the Wars of the Roses
or '200,000 blacks fought for Dixie's freedom'..
I don't say that a downtown business district is a rural area. What I was saying, I will try to make this clear....is that the census delineates urban and rural areas by population density per square mile. My point was that this criteria can be misleading since it can categorize areas as rural or urban that do not fit into the traditional definitions of such.
The census obviously would not delineate a rural area in the midst of a major city. The problem arises when they categorize outlying areas where population density sometimes does not accurately reflect development patterns and land use.
The area I was discussing in the original post was the area around New York City that the census labels as a metro area (urban). Now if you actually go to many parts of this metro area, you would see farms, woods, single family homes, sometimes mansions and vast estates. What is actually on the ground would not qualify as urban in the traditional definition. On the other hand you can go to some areas in the country that are categorized as rural but what is actually there are vast areas of industrial use. More typical of an urban environment but lacking in population.
otoh, i still suspect that , absent more realistic & accurate data, that my 20% guess for the rural v. city population is correct.
free dixie,sw
No offense but your 20% estimate is way off the mark.
i've many times posted that the late Professor H R Blackerby, of Tuskegee University, was "THE" expert on black CSA veterans AND i've posted the title to his book (BLACKS IN BLUE AND GRAY), several times, with the ISBN & publisher's address.
in point of fact, the DAMMyankees on this forum do NOT desire to know THE TRUTH about the WBTS.
to them, the LEFTIST/radical REVISIONISTS knowing LIES are "comforting" & make them feel "secure" in their preconceived notions & hate-FILLED prejudices against dixie, her battleflags, her hero/martyrs & her wonderful/FREEDOM-LOVING people.
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Remember my question STAND?
"Since I love simple questions, let me ask you one about the Museum, who is closer to it General Lee or General Beauregard?"
I'm still waiting for an honest answer from you....
By the way, Capital Letters on a typewriter are part of every individual letter key, you can't remove a capital letter without removing the small case letter as well.
And don't even get me started on typewriter balls.....
i would presume that you are NOT being INTENTIONALLY insulting to his memory and/or to our Tsalagi religious/cultural traditions, are you????
when you've stopped being "smarty" & have APOLOGIZED for disregarding my requests, perhaps i'll take your posts/questions seriously enough to answer them.
btw, you are DEAD WRONG (as usual) about old typewriters. mine was an electric Underwood, of unknown vintage. it had caps/smallcase on each key.
free dixie,sw
Except that Blackerby wasn't a professor at Tuskegee. He wasn't a professor at all, in fact, but a small-time publisher of comic books and pulp fiction. As an amateur historian he wrote two books, the other being "Great Civil War Stories." And BIB&G doesn't come close to claiming, much less proving, the things you say it does.
btw, you are DEAD WRONG (as usual) about old typewriters. mine was an electric Underwood, of unknown vintage. it had caps/small case on each key.
Exactly my point! you cannot remove one without removing the other.
by the way, STAND WATIE is no hero by my measure, a TRAITOR that sold the land of his tribe and brought about the indignity of the Trail of tears to the whole Cherokee nation.
And you can't answer my simple question, can you?
I thought so!
Anyone that has ever worked at The Confedrate Museum would be able to in a heart beat. So I've caught you in yet another lie.
and you believe the arrogantly FALSE bilge out of the most extreme, south-HATING, revisionist left.
did it ever occur to you that i ignore your questions because i think you are a fool, who asks stupid/pointless/simplistic questions?
furthermore, i couldn't care LESS what you think of me, but i believe that you will regret that you have been DISrespectul to our cultural/religious traditions AND to the memory of our tribe's principal hero. (ONLY Sequoia comes close to being as honored as our General. he, too, has a room dedicated to his memory at the tribal museum.)
NO tribal government would dedicate a display, much less a WHOLE ROOM, in their own museum to honor a traitor!(this one comment of yours tells me that you are either just a nitwit, an "Indian-HATER" and/or you lack COMMON SENSE.)
free dixie,sw
Do you deny that STAND WATIE sold off Cherokee land against Cherokee law?
Do you deny that he was forced to flee a Death sentence passed down by the tribe?
Do you deny that the trail of tears is a direct result of his actions?
Do you deny he was one of the largest slave owners in the Cherokee nation?
All of the above is historical fact that doesn't even need to be proven to you.
He sold out his own people for profit and indirectly caused the deaths of 4000 Cherokee that died along the trail of tears.
Your version of history is much too kind to this traitor.
And you still can't answer my question about the Confederate Museum, my, my, surely anyone with the love for the confederacy especially someone that (quote)has been there(unquote), would know the answer.
I'm going to so enjoy giving out the answer when you finally admit you just don't have a clue.
may i suggest that you read Wilma Mankiller's book to learn the truth about the General, IF indeed you are interested in knowing the FACTS. imVho, you do NOT want to know the TRUTH (especially after your latest post) as it will make you look IGNORANT!
for starters, Stand Watie was quite a YOUNG man, not able to sell ANYTHING, when the "treaty party" was forced to sign the treaty for removal & sold the land.
had you checked your facts,you would know that it was Buck Watie (his elder brother), who made the $$$$$, if anyone in the family did.
as for the rest of it, let me save time typing & simply say: BUNK!
free dixie,sw
And your source admits he said nothing like that. The quote is from Justice Jackson.
Roughly between December 1789 and May of 1790.
NONE of the sovereign States would have FREELY entered a union, that they couldn't just as FREELY leave.
Most states didn't 'FREELY enter' anything. They were admitted, only with the permission of the majority of the existing states through a vote in Congress. And I have no objection to them leaving the same way.
Did you just capitalize "Stand Watie's" name?
Yes, you did! So much for that sign of "respect" and removing the capital letter from antique typewriters so you wouldn't have to use capitals.
If you don't do it, no one else here should be forced to...
Isn't it time you gave up the whole wounded pride indian act?
It is such a pathetic crutch for a troll to need.
Come on Stand answer my question about the Confederate Museum, give your best shot.
You have a 50/50 chance of giving me the right answer, especially if you don't reveal how you got that answer and just give me a wild a$$ guess straight out of the blue.
You know I got you on this one as well.
Who knows mac_truck might even add it to his list of your dubious achivements.
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