"Ahhh hates Yankees!"
Posted on 07/06/2006 7:01:52 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
Oh I thought he must have been a Red Sox fan.
I think the implication is not so much that Yankees are nosy, in the sense of inquiring into personal matters, but that they often come to the South and try to tell local people in general how to "improve" things--that is, they want things done the way they are done back in the North. Wider roads, more development, modernization, uniformity, more laws, more government control of things, more liberal policies, etc.
That for the most part doesn't apply to Yankees on this forum because conservative Yankees are generally in favor of most of the attributes of Southern life, like decentralization of government, lack of gun control, close family life, respect for the military and for religion, and perhaps a more leisured way of living.
Thanks. I should have put quote marks around that. I couldn't remember where I heard that phrase.
"That for the most part doesn't apply to Yankees on this forum because conservative Yankees are generally in favor of most of the attributes of Southern life, like decentralization of government, lack of gun control, close family life, respect for the military and for religion, and perhaps a more leisured way of living."
This Yankee thanks you for realizing that distinction.
Have a close acquaintance who works in a call center. She frequently comments on the different dispositions she deals with from different parts of the country. She says New Jersey rudeness is the worst, followed closely by Massachusetts and New York, but Rhode Island people are nice. All the southern states are nice, except for some grouchy people in Florida (probably retirees from NJ?) and Californians are so laid back that they are no pressure. Admittedly this is an unscientific observation but I thought it was interesting.
If everyone in the South was as "polite" as you, Mr. Ingram, we could justify another war.
A jerk is a jerk whatever culture he comes from.
I've lived in northern Alabama most of my life but am still mistaken for a Yankee because I don't have a Southern accent.
In many parts of the world it is considered rude in the extreme to jump into a business discussion without some polite small-talk first. This is typical of the South, as well as many western European nations, Africa, the Mideast, and (I'm told) Asia. In other areas, like the North and the UK, such conversation is itself considered appallingly rude, inappropriate, and a waste of valuable work time. A disconnect like this can foster a lot of bad feeling.
Remember that even before the War Between the States there was suspicion and hostility between the two parts of our nation and it had nothing whatsoever to do with feelings about slavery, as the hatred of slavery in the North wasn't whipped up until during the War. It had more to do with two very different cultures intensely suspicious of each other because of behavioral and economic issues.
Today the clash is between liberals and conservatives, not North and South. Conservatives in both North and South need to unite against the forces of leftism and realize that we share a lot of common values even if we speak differently and choose to live differently.
Maybe so, but the covenants against Sherman may be legitimate. He was, after all, the first American terrorist.
When I was growing up in NC, we called them dingbatters. Northerners who came down to our beaches and told us what to do. They were the main cause of the closing of Bogue Banks to the beach buggies of the sport fishermen in the 70's.
When I was a teenager, I remember riots in Boston over school desegregation, in the 70's. My county desegregated in 1965, when I was 6. I never saw any problem. But IRT Boston, I remember my Dad making the statement that the Yankees made us do it, when they didn't even see if it would work in their own backyard.
>1. They could not be Yankees.
2. They could not have the last name Sherman (an obvious reference to Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman).
3. And the land could not be sold or leased to those whose last names could be rearranged to spell Sherman. <
Snicker, snicker bump
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I've always maintained that considering his contribution in hastening the end to the war of Northern Aggression, Gen. W.T.Sherman should be on on the $50 bill.
I've lived in both the north and the south. Northerners have some strange ideas about the War Between the States. Many really do think it was all about slavery. They really think southerners are racist and northerners are above that sort of thing.
Life in the south is so much more civilized but every day more and more northerners move in with their vile 'hate bush' bumper stickers and their strange ideas about gun ownership. I wouldn't mind if northerners were banned, as long as I could sneak in.
I didn't realize I was a 'yankee' until I moved here @ 8 years ago - from Wisconsin!
I've heard the statement 'you're pretty nice, for a Yankee' so many times...
Southerners (bless your hearts), please stop asking 'where you from?' when you meet people. It's rude and shouldn't really matter. (I doubt we met on the civil war battlefields...let it go!, let it go!)
I (nor my pappy or grand pappy) may have been born here, but I got here as fast as I could!!!
My family and I do love living in Baja Carolina (on the coast near Charleston), and have adapted to the slower pace as well as we could, so you might as well enjoy the company of these 'damn yankees', 'cause we ain't leaving!
In the second place, LeGare is a venerable old Charleston French name.
And in the third place, a while back, General Sherman's grandson married a Savannah girl, not just in Savannah (across the river from Jasper County, South Carolina) but in St. John's Church (Episcopal), next door to the parish house, where the reception was held and which served as General Sherman's headquarters during the conquest of Savannah in the Civil War. Savannah didn't bat an eye. You can't bury the hatchet any deeper than that.
I might add that, when General Sherman occupied Savannah, he was entertained by friends there. Savannah people--or South Carolina people, or Old Guard people across the South--have never allowed anything as relatively trivial as a war to interfere with hospitality or a good time! I mean...that goes without saying.
That said, however, there is a dual population of people from the Northeast and the Midwest which is particularly noticeable in California, where many of these people have immigrated, but which can be observed anywhere, including their home turf, the South, Europe, or anywhere else. One group is delightful; these blend in with everyone else and tend to go virtually unnoticed. The other is rude and obnoxious, in ways that are not seen in other populations. If I accidentally dial the wrong number, I can count on these people to be rude and impatient and not to be helpful.
An example: In a restaurant, a friend had me regaled with laughter. I didn't realize that I might be disturbing those around me until a woman not far away, with a noticeable Yankee or Midwestern accent shouted rudely: "Stop that!" I instinctively apologized, saying, "Oh I'm so sorry. Please forgive me." She turned away contemptuously.
Another example: A relative of mine was walking her dog in a very expensive neighborhood to which many from the Northeast and Midwest have recently moved. A man in an expensive car, shouted at her: "Make sure you clean up that sh**!" She was stunned. She and her husband put their house up for sale, not merely because of this man, but because he was typical of what had moved in. They moved to another location.
There are nice people and obnoxious people everywhere, but the Yankee version of obnoxiousness is a unique and particularly unpleasant variety.
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