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Minutemen Condemn Congressman Pence's Amnesty Proposal
Sierra Times ^ | 6/15/06 | Chris Simcox

Posted on 06/17/2006 4:21:56 PM PDT by Dane

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Whew Pence's proposal is almost exactly like tancredo's. What a bunch of arrogant windbags.

With "conservative friends" like the minutemen and tancredo, who needs enemies.

Also minuteman/tancredo endorsed candidate in Utah, John Jacob, it seems had his own personal guest worker program going.

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1 posted on 06/17/2006 4:22:01 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Hmmm... So that was why Pence was at the recent Bilderberger conference...
2 posted on 06/17/2006 4:27:24 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Dane
Doesn't Minutemen founder Jim Gilchrist also advocate impeaching Bush over illegal immigration and want to run for president on the Reform Party ticket?

I guess this means Mike Pence is now out as a "Real conservative" for some Freepers.

3 posted on 06/17/2006 4:30:28 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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They also endorsed the 3rd party guy against Bilbray in California.
4 posted on 06/17/2006 4:31:36 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: KyleM

Thought you would be interested in this article. Does it relate to what you posted in May.

Tancredo Expresses Disappointment at Pence’s Immigration U-Turn
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1637128/posts


5 posted on 06/17/2006 4:34:23 PM PDT by beaversmom
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Rep. Pence’s amnesty proposal is a sell-out; it is a politically opportunistic betrayal of the U.S. House’s stalwart action in HR 4437 to protect and defend these United States with ‘Border Security First,’ as is the Congress’ duty under the U.S. Constitution

Sounds like Pence is practicing to be a future Senator.
6 posted on 06/17/2006 4:34:43 PM PDT by TomGuy
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No it sounds like the last thing that the Minutemen or Tancredo want is for this issue to be resolved. Their livelihoods depend on having the issue NOT the solution.
7 posted on 06/17/2006 4:36:22 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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REP TOM TANCREDO'S FOUR-POINT PLAN FOR IMMIGRATION

1. Secure our Nation’s Borders

Pence's plan passes HR 4437 first before any guest-worker plan is implemented. Borders must be certified secured by Homeland Security

2. Establish a Genuine Guest Worker Program

Under the Pence plan, illegals must go home to apply for a guest-worker permit. Annual quota limits would be based upon employers needs and enforced by the Dept of Labor.

3. Improve “Interior Enforcement” of Immigration Laws

Just like Tancredo, Pence would crack down on employers who violate the law. Immigration and employment laws would be modernized under the Pence plan.

4. Remove Incentives for Illegal Immigration

No anchor baby status. No more illegals working under the table. NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP - NONE!

THE PENCE PLAN IS NEARLY IDENTICAL TO TANCREDO'S 2003 PLAN. PENCE BASHERS YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

8 posted on 06/17/2006 4:40:22 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (PENCE IMMIGRATION PLAN BASHERS WILL BE OBLITERATED)
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Sounds like Pence is practicing to be a future Senator

You don't know what you're talking about.

Pence's plan passes HR 4437 first before anything.

9 posted on 06/17/2006 4:41:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (PENCE IMMIGRATION PLAN BASHERS WILL BE OBLITERATED)
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To: Texasforever

So it sounds like he's an 'immigration pimp', the same as Jessie Jackson is a race pimp. No illegal immigration and Tancredo turns into a nobody, just like the race pimps would all be out of jobs if "we all just got along".


10 posted on 06/17/2006 4:41:19 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Dane

Dane, from what I've noticed you don't agree with this.
Why did you post it?


11 posted on 06/17/2006 4:42:21 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: AmericaUnited

You nailed it.


12 posted on 06/17/2006 4:44:11 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Dane
DANE ALERT!!

This is a DANE ALERT.

Be advised that Dane is in favor of criminals violating our immigration laws. Be further advised that Dane is in favor of American employers violating our Social Security laws, our unemployment compensation laws, our RICO Statutes, our immigration laws, and has no regard whatsoever for the thousands of Americans injured or killed at the hands of criminal invaders.

It is useless to attempt to engage him with logic, reason, or respect for the Law.

Therefore it is in your best interest to simply ignore him.

THIS HAS BEEN A DANE ALERT

We know return you to your regularly scheduled forum activities.

L
13 posted on 06/17/2006 4:50:21 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
PENCE BLOG: Talking points on my immigration plan

"The Senate passed a bill granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens and I will not support it. Amnesty is not the answer. It will only worsen the problem because it will cause more people to come here illegally with the hope of someday having their status adjusted."

It is time for Tom Tancredo to put petty politics aside and work with Mike Pence in supporting sound, feasible immigration reform that doesn't sacrifice border security and doesn't allow foreigners instant citizenship.

The United States Senate will never consider HR 4437 or a similiar border enforcement-only bill, and the House will never consider the Senate's AMNESTY plan. Therefore, there will have to be negotiations.

It is better to get the 90% now and work and tweak the plan later, instead of THE WHINE ALL THE TIME CHOIR complaining about not getting the 100% and letting the problem contineu. It is time to call the Senate's bluff, and get them on record of either supporting a strict, regulated guest-worker provision or supporting out-and-out amnesty that the American people have made it clear that they do not want.

If Tancredo is really the conservative that he is, whereas he has a near 100% ACU record on the issues, whereas Pence's immigration plan is nearly identical to his own sans the length of the guest-worker provision, whereas passing a strict immigration bill will cement Congressional control in Republicans hands, then he needs to get on board and support the Pence (which is basically his own plan) plan.

Otherwise, he is part of the problem and not the solution!

14 posted on 06/17/2006 4:51:29 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (PENCE IMMIGRATION PLAN BASHERS WILL BE OBLITERATED)
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To: Lurker

What's the matter, you sound like Dane sprayed holy water on you. I think yo may be protesting a bit too much.


15 posted on 06/17/2006 4:51:58 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Lurker

Don't worry, I just write everything he says off as a product of subjective reality.


16 posted on 06/17/2006 4:54:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: Texasforever

"No it sounds like the last thing that the Minutemen or Tancredo want is for this issue to be resolved. Their livelihoods depend on having the issue NOT the solution."

LOL!


17 posted on 06/17/2006 4:55:11 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (I'm politicked off!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I am in a quandry here, I like the Minutemen, but I like Pence's plan. Given that Pence's plan is tough and gets rid of the anchor baby problem....not to mention that Pence is in a position to actually DO something rather than just whine....I'll back him. I won't put the Minutemen down at all, but I do like the Pence plan.


18 posted on 06/17/2006 4:55:20 PM PDT by A Troop 1-14 Cav (By the time you understand women, you are one.)
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To: Texasforever
Dane sprayed holy water on you

I thought he used Taco juice...

19 posted on 06/17/2006 4:55:40 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Lurker

DANE ALERT!!


Now that is funny. That is exactly what I do too. I usually laugh at him and all the other White House pimps that appear on these imigration threads. There only put on earth to give people something to laugh at and they do a good job too.


20 posted on 06/17/2006 4:56:22 PM PDT by Quigley
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