[CarolinaGuitarman]

"All of these things would be anti-condusive to survival prior to the whole picture being in place..."

Nonsense. There are intermediaries that have one or more of these traits but not all that do/did fine.

"the chance of evolving any of these features via mutation and surviving for more than an hour or two would be an infinitessimal."

And I am sure you can provide the relevant calculations to back this up.

"Moreover, in probability theory, to compute the combined probability of two or more things happening at the same time, you multiply the individual probabilities together. The odds of all the things needed to be a flying bird coming together by chance are thus some tenth or twelth order infinitessimal, which basically renders the entire idea impossible."

Of course, if you knew anything about probability theory you would know just how silly that example was. There is absolutely no reason to expect or demand that every trait would come together at exactly the same time. That's the problem with creationists and probability calculations... the calculations may be figured correctly, but they have no relationship to any process in nature.

"the first, having been antifunctional all the while,"

There is no reason at all to assume this. None.

"No. I don't picture God using unworkable methods."

But *poofing* creatures out of thin air is workable? lol

[tomzz]

"All of these things would be anti-condusive to survival prior to the whole picture being in place..."

Nonsense. There are intermediaries that have one or more of these traits but not all that do/did fine.

Those "intermediaries", i.e. ostriches, kiwis, penguins and the like which one assumes is what you are talking about, are on their way down, and not on their way up. All are descended from birds which used to fly.

What you're talking about is equivalent to looking at wrecked cars in a junkyard and claiming that they are metal and rubber evolving their way to being fully functional cars in the showroom a few years hence, and that they are about halfway there.