[tomzz]

"All of these things would be anti-condusive to survival prior to the whole picture being in place..."

Nonsense. There are intermediaries that have one or more of these traits but not all that do/did fine.

Those "intermediaries", i.e. ostriches, kiwis, penguins and the like which one assumes is what you are talking about, are on their way down, and not on their way up. All are descended from birds which used to fly.

What you're talking about is equivalent to looking at wrecked cars in a junkyard and claiming that they are metal and rubber evolving their way to being fully functional cars in the showroom a few years hence, and that they are about halfway there.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Those "intermediaries", i.e. ostriches, kiwis, penguins and the like which one assumes is what you are talking about, are on their way down, and not on their way up."

On their way out? lol

"All are descended from birds which used to fly."

And all are adapted excellently to their environments.

"What you're talking about is equivalent to looking at wrecked cars in a junkyard and claiming that they are metal and rubber evolving their way to being fully functional cars in the showroom a few years hence, and that they are about halfway there."

Not at all. Please don;t put your silly words in my mouth. I am talking about highly adapted, successful intermediaries.

Still waiting for your explanation for your calculations...