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To: syriacus

"What would Jesus have done if He were at the hospice whenTerri was being denied food and water?




If you are a Christian, then you must believe that he was, indeed, there. Surely, if Jesus exists, he heard all the prayers said on Terri's behalf. Yet, nothing changed. Terrie is dead.

Could Jesus have stopped that? If you are a Christian, you must believe that he could have. He did not.

And that's the bottom line of that. If you are a Christian, you must believe that Terri's death is God's will.


1,663 posted on 07/29/2006 9:42:39 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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MM, sometimes evil wins. It isn't excused though. Bring the homicidal judges to justice. They are criminals and sinners!


1,668 posted on 07/29/2006 12:10:59 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Tom Gallagher 4 Guv, the ONLY Conservative in the Race)
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To: MineralMan
And that's the bottom line of that. If you are a Christian, you must believe that Terri's death is God's will.

I believe that Terri's death was Michael Schiavo's will. Greer, Felos, and others jumped on the bandwagon, too.

God didn't will Terri's death. God allowed the free will of some unkind people to be exerted.

I don't think that many Christians accept the fatalistic outlook that you say they do. Folks from non-Christian faiths are more likely to believe in fatalism.

Acording to Christianity, God is not a puppetmaster. He doesn't force people, like Michael Schiavo and his cohorts, to starve and dehydrate innocent victims.

You asked us, above, if we have chosen to follow Christ, yet you dismiss our attempts to follow Christ's commandment to "do good" to others.

Remember: Christ's death freed us from our selfishness. "Saved" Christians can see how their sins hurt God and hurt others and they are given the grace to personally change. God frees them to more deeply love God and love man, in this life.

I do not believe God wills people to do evil things to others. I believe that God wants us to care for our suffering brothers and sisters.

On the other hand, God allows us to choose evil.

Also, God can bring good out of evil. Someday, someone might "talk" or an incriminating piece of paper might show up, and Michael might be exposed as a person who did not follow Terri's wishes.

By the way, there's an underlying contradiction in your position.

1. You've told us we shouldn't speak out to change minds in order to save victims like Terri.

Yet

2. You give yourself permission to speak out in order to change our minds.

Why do you bother to try to change other people's minds, after telling us it's wrong for us to bother to try to change other people's minds?

1,744 posted on 07/30/2006 1:32:08 PM PDT by syriacus (Big Brother MSM is "watching out for us," making sure we get the "correct" slant on world events.)
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