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To: mjolnir

I never said that Catholicism did. I only stated that catholicism embraced darwinism.

Catholicism, by and large, kindof cherrypicks what it will heed from any given source. If Origen, say, were Pro-gay and anti-prostitute, Rome might cite him on the pro-gay and demean him on the anti prostitute, or vice versa. Or they might discount him altogether on the two issues or affirm both. They might also cite him out of context in support of something he's actually refuting. But that's another story.

The point of mentioning Catholicism and tying it in was specifically "replacement theology" - the place where Hitler got his notions that the Aryan race could substitute itself as the chosen. Catholicism had already formulated that notion. With racism picked up from Darwin who is affirmed by catholicism as evolution is concerned, Hitler grabs it all.. thus the racism.. not from Catholicism; but, from Darwin's writings because Catholicism affirmed him.

I think it was noted (not by me) that Hitler considered what he was doing to the Jews as a continuation of Rome's Crusades and inquisitions. I didn't initially mention that because I haven't read about it to back it up; But if true, it would further support the point I'm making. There are consequences to actions. And affirming darwin seems to have had consequences that may or may not have been intended by Rome. I don't offer an opinion either way.

You guys don't pay much attention to what is actually said and go off half cocked at the first thing you can stir into a self-martyrdome act. So spare me.


567 posted on 05/13/2006 5:56:34 AM PDT by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc


That there have been bigoted Catholics is beyond doubt.

That historical Catholicism--- which is to say historical Christianity--- has engaged in anti-semitism is beyond doubt.

But Replacement theology is and has always been considered a heresy--- it used to be called Marcionism. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09645c.htm

It's also beyond doubt that, as in all wars, the Crusaders committed atrocities. But it should be remebered that the Crusades were a defensive action against the the attempt on the part of the world that ws Islamic to conquer the rest of it http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1127751/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1396463/posts

We all owe the Crusaders a great debt-- without them, Europe would have been conquered just as Egypt, Syria and most of the rest of North Africa and the Middle East was.


597 posted on 05/13/2006 6:59:46 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Havoc
With racism picked up from Darwin

How was racism picked up from Darwin? Please be specific.
694 posted on 05/13/2006 12:30:01 PM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Havoc
Reference?
695 posted on 05/13/2006 12:31:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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To: Havoc

"The thing that penetrates the fog to my way of thinking is the fact that Hitler was Roman Catholic and Rome embraces Darwinism. Darwinism is, bottom line, racist as Darwin's original title for 'origin of the species' shows. Rome and Hitler both supported Darwin. Rome and Hitler both supported replacement theology. And Hitler was a dyed in the wool racist just as Darwin *appears* to have been. Rome had already much earlier in History been a plague to the Jews." Darwin just Gave Hitler another excuse. Go figure." (Havoc)


696 posted on 05/13/2006 12:32:27 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Any guest worker program that does not require application from the home country is Amnesty)
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