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Evolution's bottom line
National Center for Science Education ^ | 12 May 2006 | Staff

Posted on 05/12/2006 12:13:47 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

In his op-ed "Evolution's bottom line," published in The New York Times (May 12, 2006), Holden Thorp emphasizes the practical applications of evolution, writing, "creationism has no commercial application. Evolution does," and citing several specific examples.

In places where evolution education is undermined, he argues, it isn't only students who will be the poorer for it: "Will Mom or Dad Scientist want to live somewhere where their children are less likely to learn evolution?" He concludes, "Where science gets done is where wealth gets created, so places that decide to put stickers on their textbooks or change the definition of science have decided, perhaps unknowingly, not to go to the innovation party of the future. Maybe that's fine for the grownups who'd rather stay home, but it seems like a raw deal for the 14-year-old girl in Topeka who might have gone on to find a cure for resistant infections if only she had been taught evolution in high school."

Thorp is chairman of the chemistry department at the University of North Carolina.


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To: Junior; Elsie

Mark 8:36 "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul?


301 posted on 05/12/2006 5:50:10 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: jec41
Adolph Hitler was a Christian in the same sense that Jeffrey Dahmer was a vegetarian. They were until they weren't. Dahmer decided to become a a meat eater extroadinaire while Adolph decided to replace the Bible with Mein Kampf, the Lords Prayer with one to ole Adolph and Jesus of Nazareth with a swastika tattoed skinhead.

But be my guest, go through life convinced that Adolph recieved communion on a daily basis, spread Catholicism throughout the Germanic lands and preached the teachings of the Jew, Jesus of Nazareth.

302 posted on 05/12/2006 5:50:34 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: All

I'm just dying for a response to my post #258.
Can anyone pick apart why this reasoning doesn't make sense. Isn't life always made up of non-living parts, when broken down the smallest level? If we assume that the universe at some point in time had no living organisms then anything that came after had to be formed from non-living material. Thus life spawned from non-life whether done by God, physics/chemistry or both.


303 posted on 05/12/2006 5:51:45 PM PDT by cccp_hater (Just the facts please)
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To: cccp_hater

Define life.


304 posted on 05/12/2006 5:54:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: js1138; mlc9852

Actually, with the number of teachers that have been in the news lately concerning inappropriate behavior with children, you might want to consider a different example. And that's only the ones we hear about. That comparison is going to be more than a little weak.


305 posted on 05/12/2006 5:56:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Heck, I have been accused of being an atheist...it seems to some that 'support of evolution=atheism'..how lame is that?


306 posted on 05/12/2006 5:59:36 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: 1000 silverlings; js1138
The people claiming that science and evolution are responsible for the world's evils are totally unprepared to explain why the current incarnation of Hitler is a creationist and a theocrat

Who is this person?

I have been told that it's George W Bush

307 posted on 05/12/2006 6:02:34 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Natural Selection is the Free Market : Intelligent Design is the Centrally Planned Economy)
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To: conserv371
God uses the foolish things to confound the world ...

So much for what you're doing here.

308 posted on 05/12/2006 6:02:51 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: furball4paws
The result....birds do it, bees do it...

Common carriers of disease do it!!

309 posted on 05/12/2006 6:06:37 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: Skooz

It seems that your idea of a historian is a Christian rewrite. This is what he said not a rewrite of proproganda.



Hitler's religious beliefs and fanaticism

(Selected quotes from Mein Kampf)

compiled by Jim Walker

Originated: 28 Nov. 1996
Additions made: 07 July 2001






People often make the claim that Adolph Hitler adhered to Atheism, Humanism or some ancient Nordic pagan mythology. None of these fanciful and wrong ideas hold. Although one of Hitler's henchmen, Alfred Rosenberg, did undertake a campaign of Nordic mythological propaganda, Hitler and most of his henchmen did not believe in it .

Many American books, television documentaries, and Sunday sermons that preach of Hitler's "evil" have eliminated Hitler's god for their Christian audiences, but one only has to read from his own writings to appreciate that Hitler's God equals the same God of the Christian Bible. Hitler held many hysterical beliefs which not only include, God and Providence but also Fate, Social Darwinism, and ideological politics. He spoke, unashamedly, about God, fanaticism, idealism, dogma, and the power of propaganda. Hitler held strong faith in all his convictions. He justified his fight for the German people and against Jews by using Godly and Biblical reasoning. Indeed, one of his most revealing statements makes this quite clear:

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Although Hitler did not practice religion in a churchly sense, he certainly believed in the Bible's God. Raised as Catholic he went to a monastery school and, interestingly, walked everyday past a stone arch which was carved the monastery's coat of arms which included a swastika. As a young boy, Hitler's most ardent goal was to become a priest. Much of his philosophy came from the Bible, and more influentially, from the Christian Social movement. (The German Christian Social movement, remarkably, resembles the Christian Right movement in America today.) Many have questioned Hitler's stand on Christianity. Although he fought against certain Catholic priests who opposed him for political reasons, his belief in God and country never left him. Many Christians throughout history have opposed Christian priests for various reasons; this does not necessarily make one against one's own Christian beliefs. Nor did the Vatican's Pope & bishops ever disown him; in fact they blessed him! As evidence to his claimed Christianity, he said:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.

-Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922 (Norman H. Baynes, ed. The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, April 1922-August 1939, Vol. 1 of 2, pp. 19-20, Oxford University Press, 1942)

Hitler's anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Christian Austria and Germany in his time took for granted the belief that Jews held an inferior status to Aryan Christians. Jewish hatred did not spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, "On the Jews and their Lies," Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War II. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther.

Hitler did not have to parade his belief in God, as so many American Christians do now. Nor did he have to justify his Godly belief against an Atheist movement. He took his beliefs for granted just as most Germans did at that time. His thrust aimed at politics, not religion. But through his political and religious reasoning he established in 1933, a German Reich Christian Church, uniting the Protestant churches to instill faith in a national German Christianity.

Future generations should remember that Adolph Hitler could not have come into power without the support of the Protestant and Catholic churches and the German Christian populace.

The following quotes provides some of Hitler's expressions of his belief in religion, faith, fanaticism, Providence, and even a few of his paraphrasing of the Bible. It by no means represents the totality of Hitler's concerns. To realize the full context of these quotes, I implore the reader to study Mein Kampf.

The purpose of this text intends to dispute the claims made by Christians that Hitler "was an atheist," or "anti-religious," and to reveal the dangers of belief-systems. This text in no way attempts to give endorsement to anti-Semitism.







Quotations from Mein Kampf







Volume 1, Chapter 1, In the House of My Parents









Their sword will become our plow, and from the tears of war the daily bread of future generations will grow.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

Note: "Their sword will become our plow" appears to paraphrase Micah 4:3 about beating swords into ploughshares, but his tears of war more resembles Joel 3:9-10 "Beat your plowshares into swords."



I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



I thank Heaven that a portion of the memories of those days still remains with me. Woods and meadows were the battlefields on which the 'conflicts' which exist everywhere in life were decided.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Only a handful of Germans in the Reich had the slightest conception of the eternal and merciless struggle for the German language, German schools, and a German way of life. Only today, when the same deplorable misery is forced on many millions of Germans from the Reich, who under foreign rule dream of their common fatherland and strive, amid their longing, at least to preserve their holy right to their mother tongue, do wider circles understand what it means to be forced to fight for one's nationality.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 1, Chapter 2, Years of Study and Suffering in Vienna









Fate must bring retribution, unless men conciliate Fate while there is still time. How thankful I am today to the Providence which sent me to that school!

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Thus my faith grew that my beautiful dream for the future would become reality after all, even though this might require long years.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The more the linguistic Babel corroded and disorganized parliament, the closer drew the inevitable hour of the disintegration of this Babylonian Empire, and with it the hour of freedom for my German-Austrian people.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Not until my fourteenth or fifteenth year did I begin to come across the word 'Jew,' with any frequency, partly in connection with political discussions.... For the Jew was still characterized for me by nothing but his religion, and therefore, on grounds of human tolerance, I maintained my rejection of religious attacks in this case as in others. Consequently, the tone, particularly that of the Viennese anti-Semitic press, seemed to me unworthy of the cultural tradition of a great nation.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought.

At all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna's destinies: Dr. Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Note: Karl Lueger (1844-1910) belonged as a member of the anti-Semitic Christian Social Party, he became mayor of Vienna and kept his post until his death.)



The man and the movement seemed 'reactionary' in my eyes. My common sense of justice, however, forced me to change this judgment in proportion as I had occasion to become acquainted with the man and his work; and slowly my fair judgment turned to unconcealed admiration. Today, more than ever, I regard this man as the greatest German mayor of all times.

-Adolf Hitler speaking about Dr. Karl Lueger of the Christian Social Party (Mein Kampf)



How many of my basic principles were upset by this change in my attitude toward the Christian Social movement!

My views with regard to anti-Semitism thus succumbed to the passage of time, and this was my greatest transformation of all.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 1, Chapter 3 General Political Considerations Based on My Vienna Period









A man does not die for something which he himself does not believe in.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The Western democracy of today is the forerunner of Marxism which without it would not be thinkable. It provides this world plague with the culture in which its germs can spread.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Just as a man's denominational orientation is the result of upbringing, and only the religious need as such slumbers in his soul, the political opinion of the masses represents nothing but the final result of an incredibly tenacious and thorough manipulation of their mind and soul.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Sooner will a camel pass through a needle's eye than a great man be 'discovered' by an election.

-Adolf Hitler with his twist on Mark 10:25 (Mein Kampf)



Thank the Lord, Germanic democracy means just this: that any old climber or moral slacker cannot rise by devious paths to govern his national comrades, but that, by the very greatness of the responsibility to be assumed, incompetents and weaklings are frightened of.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



For by employing religious force in the service of its political considerations, the crown aroused a spirit which at that outset it had not considered possible.

-Adolf Hitler on the state of Rome (Mein Kampf)



For when a people is not willing or able to fight for its existence-- Providence in its eternal justice has decreed that people's end.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



the unprecedented rise of the Christian Social Party... was to assume the deepest significance for me as a classical object of study.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Even less could I understand how the Christian Social Party at this same period could achieve such immense power. At that time it had just reached the apogee of its glory.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



But the power which has always started the greatest religious and political avalanches in history rolling has from time to immemorial been the magic of power of the spoken word, and that alone.

Particularly the broad masses of the people can be moved only by the power of speech.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The hard struggle which the Pan-Germans fought with the Catholic Church can be accounted for only by their insufficient understanding of the spiritual nature of the people.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The root of the whole evil lay, particularly in Schonerer's opinion, in the fact that the directing body of the Catholic Church was not in Germany, and that for this very reason alone it was hostile to the interests of our nationality.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Protestantism as such is a better defender of the interests of Germanism, in so far as this is grounded in its genesis and later tradition; it fails, however, in the moment when this defense of national interests must take place in a province which is either absent from the general line of its ideological world and traditional development, or is for some reason rejected.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Thus, Protestantism will always stand up for the advancement of all Germans as such, as long as matters of inner purity or national deepening as well as German freedom are involved, since all these things have a firm foundation in its own being; but it combats with the greatest hostility any attempt to rescue the nation from the embrace of its most mortal enemy, since its attitude toward the Jews just happens to be more or less dogmatically established.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to his own heaven.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Verily a man cannot serve two masters. And I consider the foundation or destruction of a religion far greater than the foundation or destruction of a state, let alone a party.

-Adolf Hitler speaking like Jesus in Matthew 6:24 (Mein Kampf)



Heaven will smile on us again.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as long as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the scheming of political parties.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions of his people must always remain inviolable; or else has no right to be in politics, but should become a reformer, if he has what it takes!

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement was wanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct and well-planned.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scale propaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychological instincts of the broad masses of its adherents.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



If Dr. Karl Lueger had lived in Germany, he would have been ranked among the great minds of our people.

-Adolf Hitler speaking about the leader of the Christian Social movement (Mein Kampf)









Volume 1, Chapter 4, Munich







But the people on top made a cult of the 'ally,' as if it were the Golden Calf.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(The Golden calf occurs in Exodus 32:1-4)



Mankind has grown great in eternal struggle, and only in eternal peace does it perish.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



We must, therefore, coolly and objectively adopt the standpoint that it can certainly not be the intention of Heaven to give one people fifty times as much land and soil in this world as another.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



...a man does not die for business, but for ideals.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 1, Chapter 5, The World War









Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



I had so often sung 'Deutschland u:ber Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Indeed, nearly all attempts to exterminate a doctrine and its organizational expression, by force without spiritual foundation, are doomed to failure, and not seldom end with the exact opposite of the desired result...

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very first prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can always and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 1, Chapter 6, War Propaganda









I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true art which has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Only the Christian-Social movement, especially in Lueger's time achieved a certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of its success.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Certainly we don't have to discuss these matters with the Jews, the most modern inventors of this cultural perfume. Their whole existence is an embodied protest against the aesthetics of the Lord's image.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)







Volume 1, Chapter 7, The Revolution









More than once I was tormented by the thought that if Providence had put me in the place of the incapable of criminal incompetents or scoundrels in our propaganda service, our battle with Destiny would have taken a different turn.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children.

-Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I (Mein Kampf)



...we must pray to the Almighty not to refuse His blessing to this change and not to abandon our people in the times to come.

-Hitler recalling a priest's speech after the defeat of WWI (Mein Kampf)









Volume 1, Chapter 8, The Beginning of My Political Activity









As soon as the theoretician attempts to take account of so-called 'utility' and 'reality' instead of absolute truth, his work will cease to be a polar star of seeking humanity and instead will become a prescription for everyday life.

-Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I (Mein Kampf)



The thinking of the one, therefore, will be determined by eternal truth, the actions of the other more by the practical reality of the moment. The greatness of the one lies in the absolute abstract soundness of his idea...

-Adolf Hitler reflecting on World War I (Mein Kampf)



The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be, the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it continues to depend on human beings...

If this were not so, the founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of this earth... In its workings, even the religion of love is only the weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance, however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



For the greater a man's works for the future, the less the present can comprehend them; the harder his fight, and the rarer success. If, however, once in centuries success does come to a man, perhaps in his latter days a faint beam of his coming glory may shine upon him. To be sure, these great men are only the Marathon runners of history; the laurel wreath of the present touches only the brow of the dying hero.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(The metaphors of marathon runners, and the wreath (crown) of the present to achieve works for the future parallels the thought in 1 Corinthians 9:24-27: "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that you may obtain. And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.")



To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin Luther as well as Richard Wagner.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 1, Chapter 10, Causes of the Collapse









Consequently, the value and importance of the monarchic idea cannot reside in the person of the monarch himself except if Heaven decides to lay the crown on the brow of the heroic genius like Frederick the Great or a wise character like William I.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Hastily and indifferently, people tried to pass by the unpleasant truths, as though by such an attitude events could be undone. No, the fact that our big city population is growing more and more prostituted in its love life cannot just be denied out of existence; it simply is so.

...it is said with such terrible justice that the sins of the fathers are avenged down to the tenth generation. But this applies only to profanation of the blood and the race.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Avenged to the tenth generation appears in Deuteronomy 23:2-3)



Blood sin and desecration of the race are the original sin in this world and the end of a humanity which surrenders to it.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



How truly wretched was the attitude of pre-War Germany on this one very question! What was done to check the contamination of our youth in big cities? What was done to attack the infection and mammonization of our love life? What was done to combat the resulting syphilization of our people?

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Mammonization refers to the New Testament word "mammon" [Matthew 6:24; Luke 16:9,11,13] which alludes to riches, avarice, and worldly gain personified as a false god)



The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution, against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles.

The first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the 'image' of God.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(See Genesis 1:27 for man created in God's image.)



Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food, particularly for the youth...

Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea.

-Adolf Hitler sounding like the Moral Majority (Mein Kampf)



But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to profane the Almighty.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The works of Mortiz von Schwind, or of a Bo:cklin, were also an inner experience, but of artists graced by God and not of clowns.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



How widespread the general disunity was growing is shown by an examination of religious conditions before the War. Here, too, a unified and effective philosophical conviction had long since been lost in large sections of the nation. In this the members officially breaking away from the churches play a less important role than those who are completely indifferent.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in order to win new followers for their doctrine-- an activity which can boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the Mohammedan faith in particular-- right here in Europe they lose millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all religious life or simply so their own ways. The consequences, particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Also noteworthy is the increasingly violent struggle against the dogmatic foundations of the various churches without which in this human world the practical existence of a religious faith is not conceivable.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The great masses of people do not consist of philosophers; precisely for the masses, faith is often the sole foundation of a moral attitude. The various substitutes have not proved so successful from the standpoint of results that they could be regarded as a useful replacement for previous religious creeds. But if religious doctrine and faith are really to embrace the broad masses, the unconditional authority of the content of this faith is the foundation of all efficacy.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The attack against dogmas as such, therefore, strongly resembles the struggle against the general legal foundations of a state, and , as the latter would end in a total anarchy of the state, the former would end in a worthless religious nihilism.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Worst of all, however, is the devastation wrought by the misuse of religious conviction for political ends. In truth, we cannot sharply enough attack those wretched crooks who would like to make religion an implement to perform political or rather business services for them.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 1, Chapter 11, Nation and Race









The result of all racial crossing is therefore in brief always the following:

(a) Lowering of the level of the higher race;

(b) Physical and intellectual regression and hence the beginning of a slowly but surely progressing sickness.

To bring about such a development is, then, nothing else but to sin against the will of the eternal creator. And as a sin this act is rewarded.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Here, of course, we encounter the objection of the modern pacifist, as truly Jewish in its effrontery as it is stupid! 'Man's role is to overcome Nature!'

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Man's dominion over earth appears in Genesis 1:26)



...the fall of man in paradise has always been followed by his expulsion.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(See Genesis Chapter 3)



...that is why the prophet seldom has any honor in his own country.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

("For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country." John 4:44)



The purest idealism is unconsciously equivalent to the deepest knowledge.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The Jew has always been a people with definite racial characteristics and never a religion.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Due to his own original special nature, the Jew cannot possess a religious institution, if for no other reason because he lacks idealism in any form, and hence belief in a hereafter is absolutely foreign to him. And a religion in the Aryan sense cannot be imagined which lacks the conviction of survival after death in some form. Indeed, the Talmud is not a book to prepare a man for the hereafter, but only for a practical and profitable life in this world.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Great founder here, of course, refers to Jesus. The "whip to drive from the temple" comes from John 2:15, "And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple..." Interestingly, Hitler often carried a whip with him. There's at least one photograph with him posing with a whip in hand in Werner Maser's "Hitler's Letters and Notes.")



At times of the bitterest distress, fury against him finally breaks out, and the plundered and ruined masses begin to defend themselves against the scourge of God.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(For one example of God's fury and anger, see Isaiah 63)



This game is repeated again and again, and in it the role of the so-called 'German princes' is just as miserable as that of the Jews themselves. These lords were really God's punishment for their beloved peoples and find their parallels only in the various ministers of the present time.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



They [German princes] made a pact with the devil and landed in hell.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



If we consider how greatly he has sinned against the masses in the course of the centuries, how he has squeezed and sucked the blood again and again; if furthermore, we consider how the people gradually learned to hate him for this, and ended up by regarding his existence as nothing but punishment of Heaven for the other peoples, we can understand how hard this shift must be for the Jew.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



First, therefore, he goes about making up to the people for his previous sins against them. He begins his career as the 'benefactor' of mankind. Since his new benevolence has a practical foundation, that the left hand should not know what the right hand giveth; no, whether he likes it or not, he must reconcile himself to letting as many people as possible know how deeply he feels the sufferings of the masses and all the sacrifices that he himself is making to combat them.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(The left/right hand paraphrase derives from Matthew 6:3)



But even more: all at once the Jew also becomes liberal and begins to rave about the necessary progress of mankind.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The Jew almost never marries a Christian woman; it is the Christian who marries a Jewess.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



the personification of the devil as the symbol of all evil assumes the living shape of the Jew.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(The idea of the devil and the Jew came out of medieval anti-Jewish beliefs based on interpretations from the Bible. Martin Luther, and teachers after him, continued this "tradition" up until the 20th century.)



With satanic joy in his face, the black-haired Jewish youth lurks in wait for the unsuspecting girl whom he defiles with his blood, thus stealing her from her people.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Peoples which bastardize themselves, or let themselves be bastardized, sin against the will of eternal Providence...

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Providence did not bestow her reward on the victorious sword, but followed the law of eternal retribution.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Eternal retribution comes from Christian doctrinal thought as referring to eternal hell when one who physically dies in his sins without Christ. Christians to this day take Hell or the "Lake of Fire" (Rev. 19:20) as real and literal.)









Volume 1, Chapter 12 The First Period of Development of the Nationalist Social German Worker's Party









Faith is harder to shake than knowledge, love succumbs less to change than respect, hate is more enduring than aversion, and the impetus to the mightiest upheavals on this earth has at all times consisted less in a scientific knowledge dominating the masses than in a fanaticism which inspired them and sometimes in a hysteria which drove them forward.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The future of a movement is conditioned by the fanaticism, yes, the intolerance, with which its adherents uphold it as the sole correct movement, and push it past other formations of a similar sort.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



...absolute intolerance also provides long growth.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The greatness of every mighty organization embodying an idea in this world lies in the religious fanaticism and intolerance with which, fanatically convinced of its own right, it intolerantly imposes its will against all others.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The greatness of Christianity did not lie in attempted negotiations for compromise with any similar philosophical opinions in the ancient world, but in its inexorable fanaticism in preaching and fighting for its own doctrine.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



No more than a famous master can be replaced and another take over the completion of the half-finished painting he has left behind can the great poet and thinker, the great statesman and the great soldier, be replaced. For their activity lies always in the province of art. It is not mechanically trained but inborn by God's grace.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



All in all, this whole period of winter 1919-20 was a single struggle to strengthen confidence in the victorious might of the young movement and raise it to that fanaticism of faith which can move mountains.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Faith can remove mountains appears in 1 Corinth. 13:2)



The characteristic thing about these people is that they rave about old Germanic heroism, about dim prehistory, stone axes, spear and shield, but in reality are the greatest cowards that can be imagined. For the same people who brandish scholarly imitations of old German tin swords, and wear a dressed bearskin with bull's horns over their heads, preach for the present nothing but struggle with spiritual weapons, and run away as fast as they can from every Communist blackjack.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(The above statement refutes the common impression that Hitler admired ancient Nordic customs.)



A man who knows a thing, who is aware of a given danger, and sees the possibility of a remedy with his own eyes, has the duty and obligation, by God, not to work 'silently,' but to stand up before the whole public against the evil and for its cure.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 2, Chapter 1, Philosophy and Party









Thus inwardly armed with confidence in God and the unshakable stupidity of the voting citizenry, the politicians can begin the fight for the 'remaking' of the Reich as they call it.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



By helping to raise man above the level of bestial vegetation, faith contributes in reality to the securing and safeguarding of his existence. Take away from present-day mankind its education-based, religious-dogmatic principles-- or, practically speaking, ethical-moral principles-- by abolishing this religious education, but without replacing it by an equivalent, and the result will be a grave shock to the foundations of their existence.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Of course, even the general designation 'religious' includes various basic ideas or convictions, for example, the indestructibility of the soul, the eternity of its existence, the existence of a higher being, etc. But all these ideas, regardless of how convincing they may be for the individual, are submitted to the critical examination of this individual and hence to a fluctuating affirmation or negation until emotional divination or knowledge assumes the binding force of apodictic faith. This, above all, is the fighting factor which makes a breach and opens the way for the recognition of basic religious views.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)











Volume 2, Chapter 2, The State









We, as Aryans, can conceive of the state only as the living organism of a nationality which not only assures the preservation of its nationality, but by the development of its spiritual and ideal abilities leads it to the highest freedom.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



the task of preserving and advancing the highest humanity, given to this earth by the benevolence of the Almighty, seems a truly high mission.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



World history is made by minorities when this minority of number embodies the majority of will and determination.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



There is only one holiest human right, and this right is at the same time the holiest obligation, to wit: to see to it that the blood is preserved pure and, by preserving the best humanity, to create the possibility of a nobler development of these beings.

A folkish state must therefore begin by raising marriage from the level of a continuous defilement of the race, and give it the consecration of an institution which is called upon to produce images of the Lord and not monstrosities halfway between man and ape.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Hitler's concept of holy blood comes right out of the Bible. The Bronze-Age Bible authors thought that the spirit of life consisted of blood. (See Leviticus 17:11, 14). In the New Testament, God made of one blood all nations of men..." (See Acts 17:24-26). The Biblical Paul saw himself as "pure from the blood of all men." (Acts 20:26). Hitler here sees blood (life) preservation as a holy right to produce images of the Lord. This clearly forms a religious justification for racial purity and contradicts any notion of Darwinism.)



It would be more in keeping with the intention of the noblest man in this world if our two Christian churches, instead of annoying Negroes with missions which they neither desire nor understand, would kindly, but in all seriousness, teach our European humanity that where parents are not healthy it is a deed pleasing to God to take pity on a poor little healthy orphan child and give him father and mother, than themselves to give birth to a sick child who will only bring unhappiness and suffering on himself and the rest of the world.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



That this is possible may not be denied in a world where hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people voluntarily submit to celibacy, obligated and bound by nothing except the injunction of the Church.

Should the same renunciation not be possible if this injunction is replaced by the admonition finally to put an end to the constant and continuous original sin of racial poisoning, and to give the Almighty Creator beings such as He Himself created?

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

("Beings such as He Himself created," shows that Hitler believed in creationism.)



A sharp difference should exist between general education and specialized knowledge. As particularly today the latter threatens more and more to sink into the service of pure Mammon, general education, at least in its more ideal attitude, must be retained as a counterweight.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Mammon, a New Testament word [Matthew 6:24; Luke 16:9,11,13] refers to riches, avarice, and worldly gain personified as a false god. Hitler uses "mammon" or "mammonization" four times in Mein Kampf.)



For the greatest revolutionary changes on this earth would not have been thinkable if their motive force, instead of fanatical, yes, hysterical passion, had been merely the bourgeois virtues of law and order.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



It doesn't dawn on this depraved bourgeois world that this is positively a sin against all reason; that it is criminal lunacy to keep on drilling a born half-ape until people think they have made a lawyer out of him, while millions of members of the highest culture-race must remain in entirely unworthy positions; that it is a sin against the will of the Eternal Creator if His most gifted beings by the hundreds and hundreds of thousands are allowed to degenerate in the present proletarian morass, while Hottentots and Zulu Kaffirs are trained for intellectual professions.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



It may be that today gold has become the exclusive ruler of life, but the time will come when man will again bow down before a higher god.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 2, Chapter 5, Philosophy and Organization









Christianity could not content itself with building up its own altar; it was absolutely forced to undertake the destruction of the heathen altars. Only from this fanatical intolerance could its apodictic faith take form; this intolerance is, in fact, its absolute presupposition.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



For how shall we fill people with blind faith in the correctness of a doctrine, if we ourselves spread uncertainty and doubt by constant changes in its outward structure?

...Here, too, we can learn by the example of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice, and in part quite superfluously, comes into collision with exact science and research, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as one little syllable of its dogmas... it is only such dogmas which lend to the whole body the character of a faith.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 2, Chapter 7, The Struggle with the Red Front









I must frankly admit that... I should probably lose all interest in life and would rather not be a German at all. But since, thank the Lord, this cannot be done, we have no need to be surprised that the health, unspoiled people avoid 'bourgeois mass meetings' as the devil holy water.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



This, it may be that centuries, dissatisfied with the form of their religious life, yearn for a renewal, and that from this psychic urge dozens and more men arise who on the basis of their insight and their knowledge believe themselves as prophets of a new doctrine, or at least as warriors against an existing one.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The main fighter for the DSP [Deutsch-Sozialistische Partei or German Socialist Party], as I have said, was Julius Streicher, then a teacher in Nuremberg. At first he, too, had a holy conviction of the mission and the future of his movement.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



Great, truly world-shaking revolutions of a spiritual nature are not even conceivable and realizable except as the titanic struggles of individual formations, never as enterprises of coalitions.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 2, Chapter 10, Federalism as a Mask









The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated.

For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(Here again Hitler shows his belief in a creationist model of human's origin.)



In the ranks of the movement [National Socialist movement], the most devout Protestant could sit beside the most devout Catholic, without coming into the slightest conflict with his religious convictions. The mighty common struggle which both carried on against the destroyer of Aryan humanity had, on the contrary, taught them mutually to respect and esteem one another.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)









Volume 2, Chapter 13, German Alliance Policy After the War









... the world has no reason for fighting in our defense, and as a matter of principle God does not make cowardly nations free...

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



If the German nation wants to end a state of affairs that threatens its extermination in Europe, it must not fall into the error of the pre-War period and make enemies of God and the world; it must recognize the most dangerous enemy and strike at him with all its concentrated power. And if this victory is obtained through sacrifices elsewhere, the coming generations of our people will not condemn us.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



For this, to be sure, from the child's primer down to the last newspaper, every theater and every movie house, every advertising pillar and every billboard, must be pressed into the service of this one great mission, until the timorous prayer of our present parlor patriots: 'Lord, make us free!' is transformed in the brain of the smallest boy into the burning plea: 'Almighty God, bless our arms when the time comes; be just as thou hast always been; judge now whether we be deserving of freedom; Lord, bless our battle!'

-Adolf Hitler's prayer (Mein Kampf)









Volume 2, Chapter 14, Eastern Orientation or Eastern Policy









...we National Socialists must hold unflinchingly to our aim in foreign policy, namely to secure for the German people the land and soil to which they are entitles on this earth. And this action is the only one which, before God and or German posterity, would make any sacrifice of blood seem justified: before God, since we have been put on this earth with the mission of eternal struggle for our daily bread...

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



And so he [the Jew] advances on his fatal road until another force comes forth to oppose him, and in a mighty struggle hurls the heaven-stormer back to Lucifer.

Germany is today the next great war aim of Bolshevism. It requires all the force of a young missionary idea to raise our people up again, to free them from the snares of this international serpent...

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



The fight against Jewish world Bolshevization requires a clear attitude toward Soviet Russia. You cannot drive out the Devil with Beelzebub.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(devils through Beelzebub comes from Luke 11:15-19)



Never forget that the most sacred right on this earth is a man's right to have earth to till with his own hands, and the most sacred sacrifice the blood that a man sheds for this earth.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)

(till the ground: see Genesis 3:23)









Volume 2, Chapter 15, The Right of Emergency Defense









Viewing all this from a higher vantage-point, we can speak of one single piece of good fortune in all this misery, which is that, though men can be befuddled, the heavens cannot be bribed.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)



But in the great hour Heaven sent the German people a great man, Herr von Cuno.

-Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)


310 posted on 05/12/2006 6:08:35 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jwalsh07

"Define Life"

That is a good point. There is no singular accepted definition of life though the commonly accepted biological definition of life requires that the subject manifests the following aspects: Reproduction, Response to stimuli Organization, Growth, Adaptation, and Metabolism.

There are few things on the line between life and non-life. A Virus, is often argued, to not be alive as it does not have the ability to reproduce on its own without a host's reproductive system. Crystals on the other hand grow but do not reproduce themselves either so are not considered alive.

One could possibly argue that the entire universe is itself "alive" though this falls quite outside the typical biological definition. Nothing in the universe is stagnant, change is a constant, so in that sense matter itself is "alive".


311 posted on 05/12/2006 6:09:37 PM PDT by cccp_hater (Just the facts please)
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To: ROTB
Neither Hitler nor the Catholic Church have the market cornered on making stuff up in the name of Christianity or Jesus Christ.

Reread my first post. I said Hitler proclaimed himself a Christian. And he did by his own written words. That others think him not is of their own faith belief. He proclaimed it himself. Many Christians even today do not consider other Christians of a different sect Christians and they continue to form other branches. He believe in Christianity as he saw it just as you believe it as you see it.

312 posted on 05/12/2006 6:16:47 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: lexfreedom
Homosexual behavior doesn't propagate the species, and therefore is illogical and inconsistent with good evolutionary theory.

If you're talking homosexual as in "eww the other sex is icky" than that's true, but same-sex behavior is occasionally seen in otherwise "straight" animals as a means of domination.

313 posted on 05/12/2006 6:16:54 PM PDT by stands2reason ("Patriotism is the highest form of dissent." - Mark Steyn)
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To: stands2reason
Homosexual behavior doesn't propagate the species, and therefore is illogical and inconsistent with good evolutionary theory.

If you're talking homosexual as in "eww the other sex is icky" than that's true, but same-sex behavior is occasionally seen in otherwise "straight" animals as a means of domination.

Actually evolution works on populations, not individuals.

If anything enhances or detracts from the survivability or reproducibility of a population, the small effects will build up over time.

There is still a lot we do not understand about evolution (but we're workin' on it!).

314 posted on 05/12/2006 6:26:29 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
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To: stands2reason

Actually it is not unusual for homosexual men to have children. Historically, most have been married, if only as a cover.

Most women get married and have children, regardless of preference.


315 posted on 05/12/2006 6:28:33 PM PDT by js1138
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To: jec41
Gaylor's article is just as dishonest and absurd as creationist arguments about Darwinian theory leading to Nazism.

Hitler pretended to be Catholic publicly for political reasons, and so if you want to quote mine like the creationists, you can come up with plenty of instances of Hitler proclaiming his Catholicsim. However, there's ample evidence he did not believe in it, nor did he practice. He did not assist at Sunday Mass on a regular basis, which excommunicated him latae sententae. He made a public appearance in Church a couple times a year to put on a show, but that's about it. Privately he expressed disdain for both the Church and Chirstianity as a whole, as is documented in Speer's biography and other sources. That's also why in Poland and other occupied countries he shut down all the seminaries and shipped off thousands of priests to concentration camps.

Ever heard of Maximillian Kolbe?

Using dishonest tactics to bash Christianity is really not a good strategy, unless you're a troll.

316 posted on 05/12/2006 6:30:19 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: Oztrich Boy

It's the government that TAKES the money. If you don't pay your taxes, you can lose everything and go to jail. If you don't donate to churches, nobody is going to come beating on your door. It's the difference between giving freely and under that threat of force, and the gov't uses the threat of force.


317 posted on 05/12/2006 6:30:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: jwalsh07; All
Adolph Hitler was a Christian in the same sense that Jeffrey Dahmer was a vegetarian. They were until they weren't. Dahmer decided to become a a meat eater extroadinaire while Adolph decided to replace the Bible with Mein Kampf, the Lords Prayer with one to ole Adolph and Jesus of Nazareth with a swastika tattoed skinhead. But be my guest, go through life convinced that Adolph recieved communion on a daily basis, spread Catholicism throughout the Germanic lands and preached the teachings of the Jew, Jesus of Nazareth.

There is only one thing required of a Christian regardless of acts. One can kill a billion people, by any vile method that can be thought. By rape, torture, beheading, bombs, gas, diseases and any other vile method. He can steal and rob to his hearts content but all he has to do to become a Christian is believe in God and accept him as his Lord and Savior. Whats more he can backslide and do it all again. "Judge not least you be judged" and you would deny one who proclaimed himself a Christian by your judgment.

318 posted on 05/12/2006 6:31:49 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: andysandmikesmom
Thanks very much for your post #268...those figures are quite startling...I knew that Elpassers wishes for such an evolutionary ladder were unrealistic, I did not actually realize that they were quite impossible, given these statistics...

What's more, it seems to be a popular misconception among creationists that the fossil record is the only body of eividence supporting evolutionary theory, when in reality, it's but a fraction of the testable evidence (though it is the most sensational - the media loves a good fossil find).

I very highly recommend Carl Zimmer's book Evolution:The Triumph of an Idea - very enjoyable reading (even though it's a few years old now (2001) and doesn't include some of the most recent discoveries in the field), accessible to a layperson, and very widely comprehensive (with lots of good color pics to boot!). I'm willing to bet with your curiosity about the subject you'd really enjoy the reading.

319 posted on 05/12/2006 6:33:25 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Confidence follows from consilience.)
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To: js1138

You are right about this...I worked with a man, who married, had a child, and when he and his wife divorced, he eventually got 'engaged', to another man...not sure if he got married and had a child as 'cover', or some other reason...


320 posted on 05/12/2006 6:33:52 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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