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Date-rape drug allegation in Duke case
Newsday (NY) ^ | April 24, 2006 | BY JENNIFER SMITH

Posted on 04/24/2006 3:51:25 AM PDT by Perdogg

The exotic dancer who accused members of the Duke University lacrosse team of raping her at a party may have been slipped a date-rape drug, according to an interview with the second dancer in the May 1 issue of Newsweek that appeared on stands today.

Newsweek also reported that a defense attorney said some DNA evidence had been found under the accuser's fingernails, but that the first round of DNA testing - which did not incriminate any of the 46 players swabbed - was inconclusive about identity. Results from a second round of tests are expected this week.

The accuser, a 27-year-old black college student and mother, said she was raped and beaten by white students on March 13 after performing for them at a house party. Two lacrosse team members, Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., were charged Tuesday. Defense lawyers have maintained their clients' innocence, offering a detailed timeline and time-stamped photos from the party that they say throw the woman's story into doubt.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durham
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To: TommyDale

Still, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.


241 posted on 04/24/2006 10:22:28 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: maggief
She's hiding something, I tells ya. :)

No kidding!! She has so many questions to answer.

242 posted on 04/24/2006 10:22:28 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: schooter

I haven't seen much concerning the money trail but I'm sure the prosecutor has someone on that. In fact, we haven't even heard who "paid", if at all, and when.


243 posted on 04/24/2006 10:23:47 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: TommyDale

Maybe none of us were there, but we know a liar and a money-hungry publicity whore when we see one!
___________

AMen..lol


244 posted on 04/24/2006 10:23:50 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: maggief

I agree...and she has a lot to hide. Perhaps the money she took from skank #1's purse??


245 posted on 04/24/2006 10:24:11 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: maggief
We don't have much of a timeline on Kim, do we?

maggief, i think if we want to resolve this issue, then we need to figure out who's reported time line is correct... If the cops time line is correct then they got there at 12:55 and left at 1:06.. meaning Kim had to leave at or about 12:53 , just after she called 911...

If you believe the cabbie's time line then they didn't leave the hours til around 1:07 or so when he saw the boys and Kim having a cuss fight after which he saw Kim get in the car and drive off...

the cabbie's scenario jibes a bit better with the 1:22 call..

but the cops scenario jibes better with the security guard stating Kim came in "about 1:00"... they must have jacked around with the AV for a bit before calling 911...

It would be interesting to have a bit more data on Kim after 1:22....
246 posted on 04/24/2006 10:24:35 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: darbymcgill
Here you are pontificating in another nearly simultaneous thread titled "2nd DNA results out until May 15" and you come dive bombing in here without tracking back through the several discussions underway simply to badmouth another poster.

Best you stick to your own kind over in the other thread. Obviously this one is a bit beyond your ken.

247 posted on 04/24/2006 10:26:39 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Krodg

LOL

You spilled good wine? As a good minion, I would have licked it off the keyboard for you!


248 posted on 04/24/2006 10:26:50 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: muawiyah
Show me a statement where I said "dope hospital"

Your post #102: "The drink story has been out there from the beginning, and the fact that Kim too her first to a grocery store, then to a dope crisis center then to a hospital has been well known."

249 posted on 04/24/2006 10:26:52 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: sissyjane
Blah-Blah-Blah

LOL...you should have just told him to read your tagline!!

250 posted on 04/24/2006 10:26:57 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: sissyjane

Take it up with Ann.


251 posted on 04/24/2006 10:27:18 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: maggief
yet she gives her a ride to Kroger's. There's still some time between the first and second 911 calls that's unaccounted for.

Do you suppose that the time in between, she tried to dump her somewhere else, but realized she would need help? I, once upon a time, had friends that were strippers, and they would NEVER accept a beverage from a customer at a private residence. They did at the club if it came directly from the bartender or waitress. They had "bouncers" also that went with them to private parties, and they would not accept drinks either.

One of my stripper friends, though, could NOT dance without being under the influence of something (usually high) and told me that most dancers did drugs to really help them become more uninhibited. (Scary thought, as if writhing around naked isn't enough **shudder**) I believe that Crystal was already lit when she arrived, and that stumbling around on one 6 inch platform shoe proves it. Then she [supposedly] knocks over her drink because she's tipsy and snarfs down her cohort's drink? Sounds like someone with an alcohol problem to me.

252 posted on 04/24/2006 10:27:50 AM PDT by Shelayne (Antique Media--losing value everyday...)
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To: maggief

I think the standard is "probable cause". If you called the cops about a wino lounging in your car would you expect them to run a check on your warrants?


253 posted on 04/24/2006 10:28:57 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: darbymcgill
If you believe the cabbie's time line then they didn't leave the hours til around 1:07 or so when he saw the boys and Kim having a cuss fight after which he saw Kim get in the car and drive off...

Many Freepers discussed this discrepancey and Dukie07 believes that if the cabbie left Edens (12:41) and went straight back to 610, he would have been there before 12:53, heard Kim arguing with the guys and everyone left.

254 posted on 04/24/2006 10:29:32 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Carolinamom

That issue came up concerning the KY jelly. I didn't raise it.


255 posted on 04/24/2006 10:29:41 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Kim Roberts is no stopped clock. She is a convicted felon, lying stripper-whore escort racist bigot.


256 posted on 04/24/2006 10:30:35 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Neverforget01
I also truly believe if any of these guys did anything their lawyers would have advised them to claim some kind of consensual sex--

That's how four guys from the University of Minnesota basketball team got away with raping a girl in Wisconsin (Madison, I think) back in the 80's. With the first player, it actually WAS consensual - with the other three, it wasn't, but with the collapsed lung they gave her, she couldn't do much towards fighting them off. I originally believed the AV in this case, but her story's completely melted down.

257 posted on 04/24/2006 10:31:08 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Krodg
Yes, is it known for sure that the security guard made the second call. That's all I asked. Not that a call existed, just is that who made the call.

That looked like a supposition. Earlier threads even questioned whether or not Kim made the first call, or was it really the other dancer, or maybe a third party (given that the rationale for the call was at such odds with the later portrayal of events).

I get the feeling that some of the folks here are so much in the player's corner that even a full, feature-length video of the event would not be warmly received.

258 posted on 04/24/2006 10:32:05 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: sissyjane

Good.


259 posted on 04/24/2006 10:32:54 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Shelayne

There is a report that Crystal was drinking or drugging with people before she arrived. Fox had the guy on and he said he talked to people who were with her before she went to the LAX house.

She was only able to perform for 3-4 minutes. One pic describes her prone on the floor.


260 posted on 04/24/2006 10:33:10 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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