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Date-rape drug allegation in Duke case
Newsday (NY) ^ | April 24, 2006 | BY JENNIFER SMITH

Posted on 04/24/2006 3:51:25 AM PDT by Perdogg

The exotic dancer who accused members of the Duke University lacrosse team of raping her at a party may have been slipped a date-rape drug, according to an interview with the second dancer in the May 1 issue of Newsweek that appeared on stands today.

Newsweek also reported that a defense attorney said some DNA evidence had been found under the accuser's fingernails, but that the first round of DNA testing - which did not incriminate any of the 46 players swabbed - was inconclusive about identity. Results from a second round of tests are expected this week.

The accuser, a 27-year-old black college student and mother, said she was raped and beaten by white students on March 13 after performing for them at a house party. Two lacrosse team members, Collin Finnerty, 19, of Garden City, and Reade Seligmann, 20, of Essex Fells, N.J., were charged Tuesday. Defense lawyers have maintained their clients' innocence, offering a detailed timeline and time-stamped photos from the party that they say throw the woman's story into doubt.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


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To: schooter
This doesn't seem all that unusual when you remember the striking difference in upper body strength between men and women.

Kim probably already knew she couldn't drag Dancer #2 from the car.

You might test this with your wife or other compliant and willing female sometime.

201 posted on 04/24/2006 10:02:13 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Krodg

lol

Queens should have minions to type for them and clean up any spills.


202 posted on 04/24/2006 10:02:40 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: muawiyah

Have you seen a picture of Kim? She could have lifted TWO Crystal's w/out working up a sweat.


203 posted on 04/24/2006 10:04:20 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: muawiyah

...but you haven't got your facts straight in this case. Take a few minutes and go back through previous threads before you state facts that you know nothing about. There are links to all the information you need.

Please provide link to your facts, because I'm tired of reading your speculations.

.


204 posted on 04/24/2006 10:04:25 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Jrabbit

The "good samaritan" calls 911 (on a cell phone) to complain of racial slurs but has to drive to a Krogers and enlist the help of a security guard to make a 911 call--Why?


205 posted on 04/24/2006 10:04:28 AM PDT by Neverforget01 (Proud enemy of the drive-by-media)
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To: Carolinamom

Sounds like drugs, to me.


206 posted on 04/24/2006 10:05:00 AM PDT by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: sissyjane
That's simply not true. I provided a very good reference to date rape drugs earlier in this thread. In some cases memory is lost. In other cases it's not. Depends on the person.

With one of them you will think you've been talking to extraterrestrials. I would imagine the hypnotic powers of most of them are sufficient to allow you to be induced to believe you've been gang raped, particularly if you have some bruises or other injuries consistent with such an event.

Remember, just because somone has been administered a date rape drug that does not necessarily mean they got raped!

207 posted on 04/24/2006 10:05:00 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: schooter
Do you think she tried to dump AV before she got to Kroger so she wouldn't be involved?

Also, most of her comments from the beginning have been focused on her and not the AV. She really didn't show any concern for AV until she started getting outside advice.

208 posted on 04/24/2006 10:05:27 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: muawiyah

Maybe when she was in the bathroom doing her nails she was pulling things out of her purse to find the nails etc and accidently left the ky there....just a thought..


209 posted on 04/24/2006 10:05:28 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: snarkytart; mystery-ak
But, if they did what would it mean?

Are these guys gay?

210 posted on 04/24/2006 10:05:57 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: sissyjane

Just passing alone words of wisdom from our lady, Ann Coulter ~ she already covered this one!


211 posted on 04/24/2006 10:06:38 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: snarkytart
The lil darlin was giving a private one on one lap dance to the person whose car she stole. When she was chased by the police she ran into a dead end and when the officer got out of his patrol car she attempted to run him down.

Now, people who are in the business of giving private lap dances are likely to carry KY.

212 posted on 04/24/2006 10:07:06 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: Perdogg; Howlin

I wouldn't be surprised that a date rape drug might have been tried based on the information that has come out however, if it was done, it leads to more questions:

1) As was mentioned, why would somebody in the sex trade not be wise to this and refuse food and beverages that are offered? And is there any evidence that she drank anything at the party?

2) The reason you'd drug somebody is to make them compliant so why was it necessary to beat her and strangle her? A drugged victim wouldn't be putting up much of a struggle, you would think.

3) If there was intent to drug and rape the dancer, why just one dancer? Wouldn't they have offered Kim the same stuff?

4) Does it fit the timeline mentioned in other parts of the scenario. IOW, was there enough time for a drug to be administered and to take effect between the time she re-entered the house and the time needed for three men to rape her?

I suppose it is all possible but it needs to piece together correctly.


213 posted on 04/24/2006 10:07:11 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: muawiyah

....if they're gay why would they hire a female stripper?


214 posted on 04/24/2006 10:07:19 AM PDT by mystery-ak (Army Wife and Army Mother.....toughest job in the military)
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To: muawiyah
"Kim was there and you weren't."

LOL! Maybe none of us were there, but we know a liar and a money-hungry publicity whore when we see one!

215 posted on 04/24/2006 10:09:03 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Carolinamom
Why shouldn't I?

I also know a lot about hazardous substances and their mailability. Plus, best of all, I have an improved formula for ordinary black gunpowder that will knock your socks off.

When "they" burned down my office I got concerned!

216 posted on 04/24/2006 10:09:18 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
Arguing with you is pointless but I'll point out the gist of that post. Kim told the guard the woman refused to get out of her car. That implies she had been trying to get her out of the car. The woman was incoherent so the question is, where the hell was she trying to dump her? My guess is she cleaned out any cash she could find and would have just left her on the sidewalk somewhere.
217 posted on 04/24/2006 10:09:29 AM PDT by schooter (Lynching white boys for black votes)
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To: muawiyah
Let's go back to the law, and to the facts before we start arguing about the relative levels of virtue of the victim.

Your input would be much more valued by those here already aware of many of the night's details if you would display just a remote inkling of what has been reported to date.....

Plus the fact that those not aware might not become confused....
218 posted on 04/24/2006 10:09:43 AM PDT by darbymcgill
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To: muawiyah

Blah-Blah-Blah


219 posted on 04/24/2006 10:09:54 AM PDT by sissyjane (Don't be stuck on stupid!)
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To: Jrabbit

In the Newsweek article Kim claims she was mad at Crystal, thought she'd hustled her out of strip money, yet she gives her a ride to Kroger's. There's still some time between the first and second 911 calls that's unaccounted for.

We don't have much of a timeline on Kim, do we?


220 posted on 04/24/2006 10:10:23 AM PDT by maggief (And the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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