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To: N3WBI3

I've never been against all open source, and often recommend Apple OSX and Sun Solaris which use some open source in their development or final product. My problem is with the viral GPL license, which JBOSS doesn't use, while of course most zealots do, in fact some seem to almost worship it, hence the term "zealot".

Unless you're finally willing to speak out against GPL, and the zealots, which I seriously doubt, I don't see where anything has changed.


15 posted on 04/10/2006 4:13:41 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
I've never been against all open source, and often recommend Apple OSX and Sun Solaris which use some open source in their development or final product. My problem is with the viral GPL license

Most 'nixes ship with GPL software, even SCO's offerings.

16 posted on 04/10/2006 6:18:25 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
My problem is with the viral GPL license, which JBOSS doesn't use

JBOSS uses the LGPL (© 1991, 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc.), which is derived from the GPL. The main difference is that the LGPL is clear that linking from non-GPL code is allowed. Depending on the author's interpretation of the GPL, dynamic linking from proprietary code to GPL code can also be allowed. Although Stallman wrote the GPL and doesn't think dynamic linking should be allowed, it is a license to the distributor/modifier from the author, so it's what the author thinks that matters, not Stallman.

The LGPL is designed primarily to cover libraries, so I can understand why they'd make JBOSS LGPL instead of GPL -- as an application platform, people will be linking to it all the time, and you want to make it clear that other software doesn't have to be GPL.

It is just as "viral" (if you don't respect the copyright of others and want to use that term) as the GPL if you modify the library.

21 posted on 04/11/2006 6:33:09 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
I have bad news for you most jboss.inc software uses the lgpl (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/lesser.html) which forces companies to release changes to any software in which they distribute. So here you are still agreeing with me and speaking well of a company that uses a license written by FSF.

Unless you're finally willing to speak out against GPL

As I have often said I have no problem with IP owners using whatever license they choose to use be it the GPL, BSD, or completely closed. You on the other hand usually act as a zealot.

Its nice to see on this thread you appreciate how open source works with capitalism as stated when you pointed out that a private company built around the OSS model was sold for a good chunk of change to a company who also uses the OSS model. Making more money for stock holders and providing a nice offering for businesses. I also appreciate you pointing out that many in the OSS community who might be as zealous as you (albeit in a different direction) don't control the OSS landscape..

22 posted on 04/11/2006 6:59:08 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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