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To: CarolinaGuitarman
ID only deals with those things that seem to be unexplainable... so far.

Where did you get that idea? Intelligent design assumes God intelligently created an intelligible universe, and created intelligent beings to observe it. So, as intelligent beings do science, they find evidence of intelligent design everywhere.

Some (namely those whose voices and words you would have outlawed in public schools) happen to take it as a given, and use the disciplines of science to ascertain in more detail how God did what He did and does what He does. The fact that certain creatures have the capacity to adapt to their environment (evolution) points to intelligent design. Every instance of organized matter performing specific functions points to intelligent design.

A fundamental difference between evolutionists and creationists is the ultimate cause of this organization of matter and the overall presence of an objective reality available to science on an intelligible basis. Some prefer to call it "nature." Others prefer to call it "God." To say the presence of organized matter that performs specific functions MIGHT be best explained by intelligent design is merely an overall, tentative summary based upon deduction.

Your protestations to the contrary evidence that your concern is not science, but theology and pholosophy. Otherwise you'd keep your nose to the science grindstone and keep your mouth shut.

977 posted on 04/06/2006 3:37:37 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
"Where did you get that idea?"

From ID proponents.

"Intelligent design assumes God intelligently created an intelligible universe, and created intelligent beings to observe it. So, as intelligent beings do science, they find evidence of intelligent design everywhere."

Your premises do not demand your conclusion.

"Some (namely those whose voices and words you would have outlawed in public schools) happen to take it as a given, and use the disciplines of science to ascertain in more detail how God did what He did and does what He does."

That's the problem ; they take it as a given without providing any supporting data. That isn't science, that's theology.

"The fact that certain creatures have the capacity to adapt to their environment (evolution) points to intelligent design."

No, it doesn't.

"Every instance of organized matter performing specific functions points to intelligent design."

No, it doesn't.

"A fundamental difference between evolutionists and creationists is the ultimate cause of this organization of matter and the overall presence of an objective reality available to science on an intelligible basis."

This is a grammatically obtuse sentence.

"To say the presence of organized matter that performs specific functions MIGHT be best explained by intelligent design is merely an overall, tentative summary based upon deduction."

Base it on induction and we'll talk.

"Your protestations to the contrary evidence that your concern is not science, but theology and pholosophy. "

Again, grammatically obtuse.

" Otherwise you'd keep your nose to the science grindstone and keep your mouth shut."

ID isn't science, so it has nothing to do with the science grindstone.
980 posted on 04/06/2006 3:50:44 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Fester Chugabrew; CarolinaGuitarman
Intelligent design assumes

Assumption is a term of philosophy. Science assumes nothing and observes fact. The two methods are not compatible.

981 posted on 04/06/2006 3:56:32 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Still, Fester, Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle can be readily demonstrated ~


987 posted on 04/06/2006 4:08:00 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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