[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Objective reality is independent of the observer. I know of no observer who can be wholly independent of himself and his emotions. Consesnsus does not establish objective reality and is not an effective logical argument."

So you really DO believe that there is no way to gain objective knowledge. Post-modernist to the end, eh?

[muawiyah]

Gnostics believe there to be an objective reality. Non-Gnostics discover "truth" in a far different manner.

[Fester Chugabrew]

I do not question the existence of objective reality, nor do I question that certain parts of objective reality are accessible to human reason. But I do question my capacities as an observer. You and your evo buddies have it all figured out, and apparently remain convinced in your own minds that you are wholly without biases that would color your interpretation of the evidence.

Me? I can look at reality both ways: as a product of intelligent design or as a product of unguided forces of nature. I can even understand why both considerations ought to be allowed in school (perhaps not under the guise of science). You? You're afraid of the idea of an intelligent designer to the point you would invoke the law of the land to see to it that your subjective basis and assumptions reign supreme in the schools. I have been taught to despise tyranny of all kinds, and that includes the intellectual tyranny of evolutionary dogma.