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To: Calpernia
Yep. The various types of lungfish can breath air, and the African lungfish (aka Mudfish) can stay out of water for months and 'walk' on pectoral fins. There are also other types of air-breathing/land-'walking' fish eg the other types of lungfish, walking catfish, mudskippers, and bennies. I believe Bowfins can gulp air (although they do not 'walk' on land), and obviously there is the Northern Snakehead (which can breath air for several days, and while it doesn't use its fins for 'walking' it can wriggle from pond to pond).

All these fish are alive today, thus I'm wondering what the significance of this find is.

39 posted on 04/05/2006 11:11:32 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz
All these fish are alive today, thus I'm wondering what the significance of this find is.

Exactly! LOL! But that's what you get when these people are so desparate...

46 posted on 04/05/2006 11:18:45 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: spetznaz

>>> All these fish are alive today, thus I'm wondering what the significance of this find is.

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51 posted on 04/05/2006 11:26:17 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: spetznaz
All these fish are alive today, thus I'm wondering what the significance of this find is.

I am wondering if you read the article. The significance of the finding is more than simply the creature's ability to breathe air.
78 posted on 04/05/2006 11:55:58 AM PDT by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: spetznaz
The various types of lungfish can breath air, and the African lungfish (aka Mudfish) can stay out of water for months and 'walk' on pectoral fins. There are also other types of air-breathing/land-'walking' fish eg the other types of lungfish, walking catfish, mudskippers, and bennies. I believe Bowfins can gulp air (although they do not 'walk' on land), and obviously there is the Northern Snakehead (which can breath air for several days, and while it doesn't use its fins for 'walking' it can wriggle from pond to pond).

What is the bone/joint structure present on the pectoral fins of the fish you named?

This one had the beginnings of upper arm, forearm and wrist joints on it's pectoral fins. That's the significant difference.

Embedded in the fin of Tiktaalik are bones that compare to the upper arm, forearm and primitive parts of the hand of land-living animals.

"Most of the major joints of the fin are functional in this fish," Shubin said. "The shoulder, elbow and even parts of the wrist are already there and working in ways similar to the earliest land-living animals."

142 posted on 04/05/2006 12:39:46 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: spetznaz

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/cerc/danoff-burg/invasion_bio/inv_spp_summ/Clarius_batrachus.html

Identification: Walking catfish, which are scale-less, are typically a uniform shade of gray or gray-brown with many small white spots along their sides. The head is flat and wide and the body tapers to the tail. The eyes are very small and the mouth is broad with fleshy lips and numerous small pointed teeth in large bands on both the upper and lower jaw. There are four pairs of barbels, one pair each of maxillary and nasal barbels and two pairs of mandibal barbels. The fish has a lengthy dorsal and anal fin that each terminate in a lobe near the caudal fin. The pectoral fins, one on each side, have rigid spine-like elements. To move outside of water, the fish uses these "spines" and flexes its body back and forth to "walk". The walking catfish is easy to distinguish from many of the other North American catfish because it doesn't have an adipose fin.

In addition to the brown or gray-brown coloring noted above, albinos and calico morphs are also possible. However, these are uncommon in the wild. For example, in Florida the fish that escaped were albinos but today the albino is rare and descendants have generally reverted to the dominant, dark coloring.

The fish reach reproductive maturity at one year and grow up to 24 inches in their native range. However, in Florida they rarely exceed 14 inches.

Walking catfish possess a large accessory breathing organ which enables them to breath atmospheric oxygen. They are well known for their ability to "walk" on land for long distances, especially during or after rainfall.

I remember these Walking Catfish from when I lived in So. Fla. They are still around.


169 posted on 04/05/2006 1:00:16 PM PDT by mlc9852
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