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To: Filo
...it's not a theory (it's an opinion)...

Except that science does not have a corner on the market on the word *theory*. ID qualifies as a theory in the general sense of the word. From Merriam-Webster Online:

Main Entry: the·o·ry
Pronunciation: 'thE-&-rE, 'thi(-&)r-E
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ries
Etymology: Late Latin theoria, from Greek theOria, from theOrein

1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another
2 : abstract thought : SPECULATION
3 : the general or abstract principles of a body of fact, a science, or an art
4 a : a belief, policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action b : an ideal or hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances -- often used in the phrase in theory
5 : a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena
6 a : a hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation b : an unproved assumption : CONJECTURE c : a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject

26 posted on 03/29/2006 8:36:50 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Except that science does not have a corner on the market on the word *theory*. ID qualifies as a theory in the general sense of the word.

But the argument is that ID is a scientific theory, in which case the definition used in science is the metric.

ID makes no testable assumptions, therefore, it is not science.

28 posted on 03/29/2006 8:41:20 PM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: metmom
Except that science does not have a corner on the market on the word *theory*. ID qualifies as a theory in the general sense of the word. From Merriam-Webster Online:

Then clearly you believe that ID is not science which means, once again, that it's an opinion.

Re-read your definitions. The common theme, aside from the two words you highlighted, are facts - things that can be investigated and possibly proved; something that ID lacks completely.
36 posted on 03/29/2006 8:46:45 PM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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To: metmom
1 : the analysis of a set of facts in their relation to one another

Yes the first out of the box. Observation of a material is the first requirement of the method of science. Science observes facts. You have observed ID as a fact?

123 posted on 03/30/2006 6:18:22 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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