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To: goldstategop
Most "drug crime" happens because the product is illegal. Since drug sellers can't rely on the police to protect their property, they form gangs and arm themselves. Drug buyers steal to pay the high black market prices.

And all those drug buyers and sellers would be model citizens if only the evil government wouldn't ruin their fun by banning drugs. Anybody who would steal to get mind- and body-destroying drugs, and anybody who would buy a gun and form a gang to sell them, is either evil or stupid. Chances are they'd end up criminals anyway.

The government says alcohol is as addictive as heroin, but no one is knocking over 7-Elevens to get Budweiser.

If the government truly says this, then the government is definitely wrong. If alcohol were as addictive as heroin, everybody who drank would be alcoholics. Are there actually people who shoot up heroin and do not end up addicted?

18 posted on 03/28/2006 11:34:03 PM PST by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: Irish Rose
re :Anybody who would steal to get mind- and body-destroying drugs, and anybody who would buy a gun and form a gang to sell them, is either evil or stupid. Chances are they'd end up criminals anyway.

But not all people do, there is a growing number of people who hold down jobs and take drugs on the weekend as a form of recreation.

21 posted on 03/28/2006 11:40:04 PM PST by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: Irish Rose
Are there actually people who shoot up heroin and do not end up addicted?

many of our Warriors in Vietnam did heroin. When they returned and aged a little past 30, most got sense and stopped.

23 posted on 03/28/2006 11:44:20 PM PST by liberty2004
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To: Irish Rose

Are there actually people who shoot up heroin and do not end up addicted?

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Yes


82 posted on 03/29/2006 1:21:55 AM PST by SUSSA
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To: Irish Rose

Rose wrote:
"Are there actually people who shoot up heroin and do not end up addicted?"

Yes.

"Evidence for Controlled Heroin Use?"
Shewan and Dalgarno, British .J. Health Psych. 2005
http://www.doctordeluca.com/Library/AbstinenceHR/ControlledHeroinUseEvidence05.htm
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Comment (DeLuca):
In this study, subjects had occupational and educational status comparable to that of general UK pop. Ongoing problems were rare; heroin was not a significant predictor. Use frequency data suggests importance of psych factors. The pharmacological properties of opioids, per se, do not inevitably lead to harmful use patterns.

See also:
Occasional and Controlled Heroin Use - Not a Problem? - Warburton et al., Rowntree Foundation, 2005
http://www.doctordeluca.com/Library/AbstinenceHR/ControlledHeroinUse05.htm

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125 posted on 03/29/2006 6:25:29 AM PST by docalex
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To: Irish Rose
anybody who would buy a gun and form a gang to sell them, is either evil or stupid. Chances are they'd end up criminals anyway.

not necessarily. before prohibition there weren't armed street gangs running booze in speakeasys.After prohibition started they formed machine gun toting gangs to sell booze.

When prohibition ended so did the armed alcohol gangs they disappeared because everyone that wanted a beer and a shot could go to any local tavern again and get it so all the gangs financing dried up

150 posted on 03/29/2006 8:12:04 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Irish Rose

Yes, there ARE heroin users who are not addicts, just as there are vicodin and oxycontin users who are not addicts. So what's your point?


295 posted on 03/29/2006 5:25:22 PM PST by dcwusmc (The government is supposed to fit the Constitution, NOT the Constitution fit the government!)
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