[Pukin Dog]

Do you want to be right, or do you want to win?

It is that simple.

[Admin Moderator]

To whom it may concern, please knock off the personal stuff.

[concerned about politics]

The Illegal Immigration Genie is out of the bottle, folks.

I believe it's on our side.
Today, on the TV we see part of the 11 MILLION illegals marching in the streets along with a few high school kids skipping out of class. These people can't vote! They're not carrying AMERICAN flags in that protest!

In reality, the majority of America is solidly behind us on this issue. Even the border democrats were trying to act tough and seal the borders for votes.
If Mexicans can cross the borders freely, so can terrorists. Who can stop them without a sealed border?
No, Puken. This is a winning issue for us. Only the far left liberal states would object to a tighter immigration policy.

[Petronski]

The price of any amnesty program should be what I call the BFW.






And the W stands for wall.

[Guenevere]

bttt

[pabianice]

All of you are wrong. The real issue is the Liberals' continued ability to control the press and thus successfully lie to a large percent of the public.

All this pro/anti-amnesty energy needs to be redirected to ensuring that come this fall the Dinosaur Press will NOT be controlling the news.

[sinkspur]

Nothing is going to happen.

The Senate will pass its bill, and neither side will yield in conference.

The status quo will prevail.

[Guenevere]

PD, I respectfully disagree with you on this one.

It's never too late to do what's right!

[tcrlaf]

It's unfortunate, but you're right.......
No way a wall, or anything else happens until the ILLEGALS already here are asured they can stay......

P'ing off 19% of the electorate is not good for long term survival.......

[pollyannaish]

I want to be right and win. ; ).

Well stated as usual. Realistic and clear-eyed. Pragmatic. Appreciated.

_{ok, Now a small little gripe. I almost missed this infamous PD rant because "someone" didn't get me on the ping list. You're not out to abandon your base are you? ; ).}

[BlueStateDepression]

Yeah, they broke the law, and so do the people who hire them. So what?

That attitude is what is destroying this nation. Sad, sad, sad, sad, sad.

We no need no steeeeenkeeeeen laws gringo! SHEESH!

[Grebrook]

I know at least a half dozen people who have told me that if Bush does not start deporting illegal immigrants en masse - and lock down the border by using the military and not just some "fence" that they can easily scale or tunnel under - they will not show up to vote in November.

It'll be just like in 1994 when we stared down the Democratic party. The libs didn't get what they wanted, even though they controlled Congress and the White House, and we showed up in force and wiped them out. It'll be the same thing reversed if Bush doesn't get serious with the border, and drop this amnesty-lite. No one is swallowing this.

[Liberty Valance]

President Ronald Reagan

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“I've said on a number of occasions that I can't help but believe—you can call it mysticism if you will—that God must have placed this land here between the oceans to be found by a certain kind of people and a kind only in one thing: that whatever corner of the world they came from, they had the courage—and the desire for freedom that went with it—to uproot themselves and come to this strange land, beginning back when it was the most underdeveloped land in the world, and come here leaving family and come to a strange language and everything that went with that kind of a move.

“Many who passed through the gates at Ellis Island had little more than what they carried with them, yet they possessed a determination that with hard work and freedom, they would live a better life and their children even more so. They were captured by the American dream. And both they and their new country were the better for their efforts and their faith, because they not only came here for something but just as they came from every corner of the world, they brought something from every corner of the world to this great melting pot. And maybe in so doing, they proved how artificial are the prejudices and the hatreds that exist in the world, because we proved that we could all mix ...”

Remarks Announcing the Formation of the Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Centennial Commission, May 18, 1982

“...it makes one wonder about the illegal alien fuss. Are great numbers of our unemployed really victims of the illegal alien invasion or are those illegal tourists actually doing work our own people won't do? One thing is certain in this hungry world; no regulation or law should be allowed if it results in crops rotting in the fields for lack of harvesters.”

From a Radio Address entitled "Apples," dated November 29, 1977.

"I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it and see it still."

Farewell Address January 11, 1989

"You can go to live in France, but you cannot become a Frenchman; you can go to live in Germany, you cannot become a German— or a Turk, or a Greek, or whatever. But anyone, from any corner of the world, can come to live in America and become an American."

"You have to realize that we are a people that are made up of every strain, nationality, and race of the world. And the result is that when people in our country think someone is being mistreated or treated unjustly in another country, these are people who still feel that kinship to that country because that is their heritage. In America, whenever you meet someone new and become friends, one of the first things you tell each other is what your bloodline is. For example, when I'm asked, I have to say Irish, English, and Scotch—English and Scotch on my mother's side, Irish on my father's side. But all of them have that."

"Well, when you take on to yourself a wife, you do not stop loving your mother. So, Americans all feel a kind of a kinship to that country that their parents or their grandparents or even some great-grandparents came from; you don't lose that contact."

Question-and-answer session with the students and faculty at Moscow State University, May 31, 1988

[Serenissima Venezia]

Let the Senate Judiciary Committee know what you think of HR4437 (the Sensenbrenner bill) and about the amnesty/guest worker bills now! The Senate Judiciary Committee will meet on Tuesday, hiding behind closed doors, to make a mockery of their constituents' desires and of the Sensenbrenner bill waiting for them.

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[Serenissima Venezia]

First they came for the gardening jobs
and I did not speak out
because I was not a gardener.
Then they came for the construction jobs
and I did not speak out
because I was not in construction.
Then they came for the computer jobs
and I did not speak out
because I was not a computer programmer.
Then they came for my job
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

paraphrased from
Pastor Martin Niemöller

[Rockitz]

This country won't be worth living in either way, but I intend to fight for what is right even while I'm packing for greener pastures.

[Liberty Valance]

Alan Greenspan,
former chairman of the Federal Reserve Board.

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"Immigration, if we choose to expand it, could lessen the decline of labor force growth in the United States. As the influx of foreign workers that occurred in response to the tight labor markets of the 1990s demonstrated, U.S. immigration does respond to evolving economic conditions. But to fully offset the effects of the decline in fertility, immigration would have to be much larger than almost all current projections assume."

Alan Greenspan, at a symposium sponsored by the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, August 27 2004

"To assume that productivity can continue to accelerate to rates well above the current underlying pace would be a stretch, even for our very dynamic economy. So, short of a major increase in immigration, economic growth cannot be safely counted upon to eliminate deficits and the difficult choices that will be required to restore fiscal discipline."

Alan Greenspan, during testimony at the U.S. Senate. Feb. 11, 2003.

[lfod1776]

"Whether you like it or not, much of the commerce of this country does depend on these folks to do jobs that Americans won’t do for the prevailing wage."

Then let the prevailing wage rise until Americans will do the job. In my town the garbage is collected by Americans, and they support their American families with their honest labor.

Either we control our borders, or we no longer have a nation.

[packrat35]

I would rather see all democrats in office than see this pass and I never vote for a D.

[Liberty Valance]

President George W. Bush

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"Family values do not stop at the Rio Grande. If you're a mother and father with hungry children, you are going to try to put food on the table. That's reality. That's called love."

Responding to voters at a town hall meeting that were calling for draconian measures against immigration. South Carolina 2000 Presidential Campaign.

"Latinos come to the US to seek the same dreams that have inspired millions of others: they want a better life for their children. Family values do not stop at the Rio Grande. Latinos enrich our country with faith in God, a strong ethic of work, community & responsibility. We can all learn from the strength, solidarity, & values of Latinos. Immigration is not a problem to be solved, it is the sign of a successful nation. New Americans are to be welcomed as neighbors and not to be feared as strangers."

Speech in Washington, D.C. Jun 26, 2000

"America has never been united by blood or birth or soil. We are bound by ideals that move us beyond our backgrounds, lift us above our interests and teach us what it means to be citizens. Every child must be taught these principles. Every citizen must uphold them. And every immigrant, by embracing these ideals, makes our country more, not less, American."

Inaugural Address, Jan 20, 2001

"We hear claims that immigrants are somehow bad for the economy, even though this economy could not function without them. All these are forms of economic retreat, and they lead in the same direction, toward a stagnant and second-rate economy."

"Keeping America competitive requires an immigration system that upholds our laws, reflects our values, and serves the interests of our economy. Our Nation needs orderly and secure borders. To meet this goal, we must have stronger immigration enforcement and border protection. And we must have a rational, humane guest worker program that rejects amnesty … allows temporary jobs for people who seek them legally … and reduces smuggling and crime at the border."

State of the Union Address, Jan 31, 2006

[jpsb]

Bush has already won on immigration, the borders are wide open, millions enter illegally every year, and Spanish is becoming the dominate language in the south west. Bush is a happy man things are going his way.