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To: metmom
"Nobody is saying *creationism* IS science but most people simply do not see anything wrong with it being addressed when discussing the ORIGIN of life."

Whose version of the origin of life?

Is the science teacher now going to lead the students in a theological debate?

What are that teacher's qualifications on the subject?

Will we now expect the State to set up religion as a job requirement for Science teachers?

Will the debate and the curriculum be structured for him by the State?

Will the teacher not be allowed to interject his personal ideas and beliefs on Creation into the discussion?

How is this going to work exactly?

When tests are handed out, will the Hindu kids in the classroom fail when they answer that Brahma came from the Egg, and that the Adam guy is an impostor?

What the Hell are these science teachers going to say in the classroom?

"That was an explanation of the theory of evolution, of course, religious beliefs differ with science on the subject."

WELL....DUH!

Science belongs in the science classroom, Creation belongs in Sunday school and Church.

I can pick my preacher, but I can't pick my kid's science teacher's religious beliefs, the State cannot create a curriculum which addresses Creation as believed by one religion at the expense of another.

Why the hell can't people simply respect everyone's ability to decide on their children's religious education.

I want my kids to learn about evolution from a science teacher, and about Creation from the minister of my choice.

You have a choice to rear your child according to whatever you believe in, and if you believe in Biblical Creation, you have a wide array of schools and Churches that the can attend...you even have the choice of sending them to no school, and teaching them yourself.

Other people have the equal choice of raising their children to believe in what they want them to believe...why can't they send them some place where religious creationism is not discussed?

Why will you not afford them the same rights you are afforded?

21 posted on 03/09/2006 7:55:46 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Other people have the equal choice of raising their children to believe in what they want them to believe...why can't they send them some place where religious creationism is not discussed?

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Government schools are a price-fixed monopoly. This is a hostile environment for private schools. When private schools are scarce and exclusive the government then threatens the parents with police, court, and foster care action if the parent doesn't submit his child to the NON-neutral indoctrination of the government school.

Some choice! ( sarcasm)

Also, government schools are not economically efficient. It costs more than $10,883 every year to education each government schooled K-12 child. The price of everything we use or buy is inflated by government school business property taxes. So.... when property taxes are high and rents too, and everything a parents use or buy, both parents are forced to work. It is a cruel joke to suggest that they can homeschool.

Hm,,,why not do as Marie Antoinette? Why not say, "Let them eat cake!"

Government schools are police force child abuse! They are a human rights violation and an abomination!

Evolution is merely one of HUNDREDS of issues that will establish the religious worldview of politically powerful while actively, deliberately, and maliciously trashing those of the politically weak.
201 posted on 03/10/2006 5:49:55 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
The evolutionists have no evidence that any species, flora or fauna, evolved on this planet at all more than anyone who would say it was delivered and/or engineered by extraterrestrials - - which may even be occurring unobserved in our midst!

The evolutionists have no more proof human life evolved from other Terran life than those who would say humans were marooned and/or engineered here by extraterrestrials. Evolutionists make the fallacious assumption this planet is the starting point for all life and is the encapsulated center of the universe unaffected by anything (or anyone) beyond it. It is akin to saying the sun revolves around the earth.

Not at all scientific of them; it is a faith based theory no different in logical fallacy than creationism in the ‘appeal to false authority.’

What do evolutionists think about teaching the idea that life may have originated from outer space? They already do teach the Big Bang theory, which is an Immaculate Conception.

Since not one human being knows the answers, it is only scientific method to consider other points of view on this issue in education. Doing otherwise would be like students dancing around idols, with professors as voodoo priests proclaiming taboos and making sacrifices.

367 posted on 03/11/2006 7:19:41 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

But alot of parents don't want a theory of evolution taught to their kids without the many holes also taught and without the theory of creationism which has much evidence being hidden from them. They pay the taxes too and many can't afford a christian private school.


521 posted on 03/11/2006 8:51:36 PM PST by fabian
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