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To: whispering out loud; Coyoteman
I critique the theory based upon the fact, and it is fact, that there are just to many inconsistencies in the theory of evolution. For starters, if macro evo happened, then it would still be happening in every stage, it is not. If it were still happening in any stage, show me any, "just one" living breathing transitional specimen......

It's difficult to spot a currently-living transitional, because you can't also see its future progeny. While a transitional species is alive, it's just another species. You don't know it's transitional until a very long sequence of generations has elapsed. So they're only identifiable in the fossil record. But if you want some currently-living candidates, try the walrus, seal, otter, walking catfish, penguin, and ostrich. Just don't ask what they're transitioning to. I don't know. That's the whole problem with your question.

197 posted on 03/10/2006 5:30:21 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: PatrickHenry
For starters, if macro evo happened, then it would still be happening in every stage, it is not. If it were still happening in any stage, show me any, "just one" living breathing transitional specimen......

It's difficult to spot a currently-living transitional, because you can't also see its future progeny. While a transitional species is alive, it's just another species. You don't know it's transitional until a very long sequence of generations has elapsed. So they're only identifiable in the fossil record.

In a way, the question is like asking someone to predict which country is a transitional between dictatorship and democracy. Iraq is certainly on the road to democracy, but only time will tell if makes the transition or falls back.

But this is very interesting:

But if you want some currently-living candidates, try the walrus, seal, otter, walking catfish, penguin, and ostrich. Just don't ask what they're transitioning to. I don't know. That's the whole problem with your question.
I used to think that the answer was simple: Species are only transitional in hindsight, so it's an invalid question. But you're right: If there are any candidates to watch, they would be those species that have recently (in evolutionary time) adapted to a very different environment than their "parent" species. Especially the ones that seem like they haven't quite mastered the engineering problems inherent in thriving in their new environment.
212 posted on 03/10/2006 6:02:24 PM PST by jennyp (WHAT I'M READING NOW: Life and Solitude in Easter Island by Verdugo-Binimelis)
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To: PatrickHenry
Your concept that "macro evolution" happens only in mass group stages is is unreasonable. If it were happening it would happen in different stages in different people groups, if this were fact then species dwelling in different environmental regions would have evolved into different species. However instead, you site "human pre species" living on several different continents, if it were so, then they would have evolved into vastly different specimen, not entirely all human. Also if evolution were happening, it should then still be happening in every stage. This would mean that there would still be "monkeys evolving into apes", as well as "apes evolving into men" meaning the transitional species would be living, breathing in existence. They're not there, I don't look around and see a "half man, half ape", nor other transitions between existing species. If evolution were such a well supported theory, then why prey tell is it that the more evidence presented me about evo, the less I believe it?
274 posted on 03/10/2006 7:24:27 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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