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Will It Become 'Portgate?'
GOPUSA.com ^ | February.28, 2006 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 02/28/2006 1:11:19 PM PST by Reagan Man

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To: Reagan Man

Oh, Portgate....nevermind.

141 posted on 02/28/2006 3:32:37 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: ohioWfan; Reagan Man

Oh, good point Ohio. And also, Reagan Man has posted in the past the addage that Reagan used to say - something about not attacking other Republicans.

Which RM violates at every turn.


142 posted on 02/28/2006 3:33:05 PM PST by Peach
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To: ohioWfan

Agreed. Ronald Reagan was a gentleman.


143 posted on 02/28/2006 3:33:35 PM PST by Carolinamom (I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. ---Ronald Reagan)
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To: Peach

True I have been called a agent of the enemy on those Islamic threads

Yeah besides the immigration issue threads , the threads that are getting out of control are those Islamic based ones. I fully expect someone any day now someone to
finally cross over that line that many are standing at and start joking about taking a gun and shooting at a mosque.


144 posted on 02/28/2006 3:36:07 PM PST by bayourant
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To: nopardons

But that one wasn't "HIS THREAD".. see the difference..LOL


145 posted on 02/28/2006 3:36:10 PM PST by scratcher
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To: Reagan Man
Technical semantics aside. I've got news for you. If CFIUS said NO to the DPW/UAE deal, the deal would have been DOA. Period. CFIUS didn't do that and that is why we're having this discussion today. Fact is, CFIUS has approved something like 1530 out of 1531 deals since its creation back in the 1970`s. Can you say bureaucratic rubberstamp. LOL

And I have some news for you, you are wrong. The reason the CFIUS didn't say no was they reviewed the leases and security and found nothing wrong. In fact if you read the act you will find they can't say no unless they find something wrong. 1530 were approved because a carrier does there homework ahead of time and conforms to all regulation before submitting anything to CFIUS. It is a costly process and nothing is submitted until is thourghly examined by experts in the field. It is not rubber stamped. UAE and DP has been examined by federal security for years and much of the information is already known. The US knows full well how trade and security is conducted by DP for their ships. Most of DP shipping will be from and to other port terminals in other country. There is a manifest for anything being loaded on a ship before it is loaded and is sent to the US port authority. It is inspected by a customs official before and after it is sent to the US. We have inspectors in Dubai port terminals. And of the 1530 how many were airport terminals, land port terminals and seaport terminals. Leases for airport terminals change quickly because there's a airline going broke every month. Every time a airline stops or starts a service to a airport a terminal is brought or sold.

146 posted on 02/28/2006 3:36:51 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: scratcher

ROFLMAO! Too funny!


147 posted on 02/28/2006 3:37:05 PM PST by Howlin ("Quick, he's bleeding! Is there a <strike>doctor</strike> reporter in the house?")
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To: Carolinamom; Peach; Reagan Man
Reagan was a gentleman, and not that different from President Bush.

You can't have your facts straight and idolize one and despise the other.

Anyone on this forum doing so is either ignorant of the facts about Ronald Reagan, or deliberately using Reagan's name to attack President Bush.

There is a serious problem here with this poster.....

148 posted on 02/28/2006 3:37:10 PM PST by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Reagan Man
I am still holding out hope that this whole thing was a staged event by the administration to draw the media, as "Useful Idiots" into a predictable frenzy and then pull out and play some kind of "Gotcha" trump card.

On the other hand, If it isn't then the administration may be caught in a giant hornet's nest without a can of raid.

When it's all over I am hoping some sense will be made of this whole thing.

149 posted on 02/28/2006 3:38:20 PM PST by R_Kangel ("He who lives in glass houses should never invite "He who is without sin" into his house!!!!")
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To: jec41
In fact if you read the act you will find they can't say no unless they find something wrong.

Good post.

Does anyone know if it was it a democrat or Republican congress that gave the Treasury Department the lead in CFIUS decisions?

150 posted on 02/28/2006 3:39:01 PM PST by Peach
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To: scratcher

Indeed we do, and that thread had too many FACTS posted on it... and I was only too happy to cut and paste the best factual posting...lol.


151 posted on 02/28/2006 3:39:19 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: ohioWfan

Definitely.


152 posted on 02/28/2006 3:39:29 PM PST by Peach
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To: ohioWfan


Indeed. A very serious problem.


153 posted on 02/28/2006 3:40:38 PM PST by onyx (IF ONLY 10% of Muslims are radical, that's still 120 MILLION who want to kill us.)
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To: bayourant
I am not saying you must agree 100 percent with him but this attacking Bush all the time is going to Destroy us...

From President Bush's remarks today:

Let me just make something clear to the American people. If there was any doubt in my mind, or people in my administration's mind that our ports would be less secure and the American people endangered, this deal wouldn't go forward.... Our duty is to protect America, and we will protect America.

In other words, trust me. Can you explain why I should trust President Bush one part of our Nation's security, our ports, when he is a complete sellout to business interests on the border issue?

154 posted on 02/28/2006 3:47:24 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: Peach
If the Dubai deal falls through and since no other company bid, does the contract to to Singapore by default?

I wonder if the anti-Dubai folks want China operating ports on both our shores. They are already operating the Panama Canal too.

155 posted on 02/28/2006 3:49:07 PM PST by Carolinamom (I don't believe in a government that protects us from ourselves. ---Ronald Reagan)
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To: onyx
Yes, and I have seen this behavior before....If the facts start to get in the way you can...

A. Start talking about illegal immigration

B. Call everyone who disagrees with you a Bushbot or Bush Sycophant

C. Start over with Your VERY OWN THREAD

156 posted on 02/28/2006 3:49:32 PM PST by scratcher
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To: R_Kangel
>>>>I am still holding out hope that this whole thing was a staged event by the administration to draw the media...

You mean, "strategery"? I don't think so. Bush&Company just screwed up royal on this one. The Bush Treasury Dept`s inner agency, the CFIUS agency, didn't handle this properly from the get-go. And Dubya's defiant outrage in that press conference last week started all the BIGTIME criticism of his leadership on this issue. From there on out, it was all down hill for Bush. Its clear the rules need to be changed, ASAP. No foeign entity deserves to have any managemnt control over commercial port of entry operations. None at all. Whether it be the British, the Red Chinese, the Saudi's or the UAE. Commercial operations of American ports of entry should be controlled by Aemricans. Period.

157 posted on 02/28/2006 3:58:10 PM PST by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Howlin

I have to argue with these Bush bashers that this was not a deal done in a back room at the White House.

The UAE fairly took over these contracts. It is now up to us to make the decision.


158 posted on 02/28/2006 3:59:24 PM PST by TheLion
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To: Carolinamom

Good question. I don't know the answer to that.


159 posted on 02/28/2006 4:00:27 PM PST by Peach
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To: Plutarch

It all means what you mean a sell out. I understand the business concerns. I also understand we need these Mexicans working here. I cant imagine what would happen in Texas if all the illegals would disappear. On the other hand I dont want terrorist comming over the border and I dont want people living here forever without becoming citizens and becoming inculturated into America. The border issue is a tough one because no can talk about it rationally and compromise on it. However as to Middle Eastern terrorism and other aspects of National Security I think he has been quite good. The problem is Al Quadia cannot controll how business is run and our relations with other countries financial or otherwize. To do so would be a victory for them in itself. Again I am not sure why Bush is suddenally getting hammered on a problem no President has been able to get a hold on either


160 posted on 02/28/2006 4:00:40 PM PST by bayourant
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