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To: Hill of Tara; plain talk

"Someone who is willing to do something like this man did is probably willing to go farther eventually. What's next for him? Groping, rape?"

Why, why...sputter, sputter...and the old lady/bad driver who parks with her wheels up on the sidewalk is probably going to go farther eventually. What's next for her--rolling stops, running down a whole kindergarten class field trip?

Hysterical ninny alert. Any honest anthropologist will tell you that men have been slapping women's butts since there were...well, butts. That doesn't justify it, in our day and age, but a little perspective might help. This is PC, spread around the globe. When I see that even conservatives are willing to sign on to it mindlessly, I realize how effective the leftists have been in spreading their measures of control.

Here are the scenarios in how this should have been dealt with:
1. The girl slaps the shit out of the guy.
2. The girl's brothers kick the shit out of the guy.
3. The cop kicks the crap out of the guy, then hauls him to court, where....
4. The judge admonishes him, forces him to apologize to the girl, then fines him a couple hundred bucks and says, Don't let me see you again.
5. The girl's father visits the young man, tells him that wasn't very nice. Then, after judging him and observing him for a while, discerning what he can about his character (and no, a youthful impulse does not define character) he does one of two things:
a.) Tells him if he ever even looks at his daughter, his sons will show up to effect #2, above.
b.) Invites the young man over for a coffee, to apologize to the girl in person...and meet other members of the family.

There was a story last week about a seven-year-old being suspended from grade school for "sexual harassment"--he had pulled a girl's ponytail, or maybe snapped the waistband of her pants, I forget which.

So glad he was slapped down--elsewise, he might have mass-murdered an entire cheerleader squad when he turned 13.

A helluva lot more harm was done that boy than whatever it was he did to the little girl.

Both these incidents are just little pieces of the War Against Men, which we are losing, because of men who are so happy to sign up to fight against themselves.


18 posted on 02/27/2006 3:26:20 PM PST by John Robertson (Even if we disagree now, we may agree later. Or vice versa.)
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To: John Robertson

right on John! I am in agreement. I had a young boy pull my ponytail in gradeschool, it was a flirt, and I enjoyed it. Thanks for reminding me (good memory). However, we don't know how hard someone pulled the hypothetical little girl's ponytail in question, or if it was malicious or not. My grandchildren are now in private school so they aren't faced with unkind, unwanted, malicious conduct, because conduct has run amuck in public school. So, it all depends on the circumstance. I didn't go running to Mama, or the teacher that Johnny pulled my hair, but again, it was just a flirt from a really cute boy.. Where do we go from here? But your "big picture" perspective is right on.


74 posted on 02/27/2006 6:07:12 PM PST by georgiagirl3814 (I'm Thelma)
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To: John Robertson

We are talking about one particular type of crimes committed by adults, not kindergarten kids who pull pony tails or old women who dont know how to park, which obviously arent as serious.

"Here are the scenarios in how this should have been dealt with: "

All of your scenarios except 5b were acceptable possible outcomes, yet they did not happen. The 4 yr sentence did, and the slapper deserves every day of it. I'm betting he'll NEVER touch a woman's backside again without permission.

Any dad who invites a man who slapped his daughter's butt over for coffee is despicable.

"Hysterical ninny alert. Any honest anthropologist will tell you that men have been slapping women's butts since there were...well, butts. That doesn't justify it, in our day and age, but a little perspective might help. This is PC, spread around the globe. When I see that even conservatives are willing to sign on to it mindlessly, I realize how effective the leftists have been in spreading their measures of control. "

Oh please. I suppose you are a subscriber to the "primal instincts" school of thought, which says it is natural for men to sexually harass women?

Guess what, it ISNT! It's a crime, and this perverted slapper is paying for his mistake dearly.

It's not natural for men to slap women's backsides. We are ciilized, and should be able to control ourselves. This isnt the Bronze Age.

"This is PC, spread around the globe. When I see that even conservatives are willing to sign on to it mindlessly, I realize how effective the leftists have been in spreading their measures of control. "

Just men being oppressed and pushed down right? Socialist talk if there ever was any. As a man, I call Bravo Sierra on that above quote.

Do you think it is non-PC to slap women's backsides?

"Both these incidents are just little pieces of the War Against Men, which we are losing, because of men who are so happy to sign up to fight against themselves."

What a conspiracy theorist. You're like a male feminist, sort of LOL.


94 posted on 02/27/2006 6:44:25 PM PST by Hill of Tara
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To: John Robertson
Both these incidents are just little pieces of the War Against Men, which we are losing, because of men who are so happy to sign up to fight against themselves.

Its amazing that you tried to turn a story of sexual assalt into a war against men!!

LOL

99 posted on 02/27/2006 7:46:51 PM PST by apackof2 (You can stand me up at the gates of hell, I'll stand my ground and I won't back down)
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To: John Robertson
Both these incidents are just little pieces of the War Against Men, which we are losing, because of men who are so happy to sign up to fight against themselves.

Great post, you've said it well. I particularly like your scenarios -- to borrow one:

1. The girl slaps the shit out of the guy.

Why this one isn't employed by all these women in the workplace who are having some ignoramus talk dirty, put offensive photos on a desk, all these other harrassment probs, I don't get it. Sure, it's demeaning ... but it's pretty dang empowering to tell the guy where to go and give him a boost on his way there. Even the boss, maybe it's just me, but I would refuse to keep a job with a man who pulls this nonsense. People call me heartless, cruel, "you just don't understand" and all the rest. No, call me a woman who is secure in myself, what I will and will NOT tolerate.

I don't need to have a judgement in my favor in order to give that kind of man the message -- it comes from ME.

239 posted on 03/01/2006 12:28:05 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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