[stands2reason]

Take your Bible-bashing elsewhere. You are not welcome.

Listen up fella, last I checked this ain't your forum. It's JimRob's. And unless you happen to be a mod, your opinion means nothing to me.

And no personal beliefs (except leftism) are outlawed.

I didn't bash your Bible, so get over yourself. Even my Christian minister friend thinks I'm entitled to my own opinion.(And prays for my soul every night most likely) Your hostility towards me shows that you don't agree.

Well, bathe in your hostility, if you so desire.

[Elsie]

And no personal beliefs (except leftism) are outlawed.

Not quite....

Just try posting Mormon secret sacred temple ceremonies and see how long they remain!

[joseph20]

Glad I'm not a Christian. Makes it easy for me to accept logic and reason.
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Because that is just what other men have told them.
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Christianity doesn't make sense to me
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Here's my problem with that: Unless God came to you directly and told you personally that the Bible is his word, you are putting your faith in the word of other men. Period
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So God told you personally that the Bible is his inspired word?
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It. Doesn't. Make. Sense. To. Me. I never stated that it was illogical as an objective fact. Maybe it's right. Maybe God needed to sacrifice his only son as an offering to himself. I just don't get it. No need to come unglued.
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What I know about God is what has been revealed to me directly, and that ain't much. And God is too important a subject to take any other man's word for it -- especially a single source. I wouldn't take a single source for the repair record for a used Nissan -- why would I accept it for anything actually important?
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I think its because some people's faith is so shaky that they need science to prove God exists.
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According to certain interpretations of the Bible nothing died prior to Adam's sin. That means every fruit or veggie that Adam and Eve picked and ate STAYED ALIVE even after being digested. I am not making this up.
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You have faith in a book written by men --you are welcome to that belief.
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Maybe God told you personally that the Bible is his Word. He hasn't revealed such to me. Until then, it's only men who have told me such.

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Hey now. You wrote all of that. You have quite clearly expressed your objection to Christianity and the Bible. Repeatedly.

I think I understand your point of view. I used to have a similar way of looking at the issue. You are correct in that Faith and Reason are, at least in the classical understanding, two separate epistemologies. Strictly employing the epistemology of Reason, there is no proof that God exists or does not exist. No man, in the history of all humanity, has ever been able to prove with Reason that God exists or does not exist. Since we cannot (or have not been able to so far) prove that God exists through Reason, the only remaining way to know God is through Faith. It is improper for you to state that it is unreasonable to believe in the Bible since it was written by Man, since Reason ultimately has nothing to do with that belief in the first place. The belief in the Bible comes through Faith. Since Faith is essentially a non-Rational epistemology, my Faith in the Bible is no more or less unreasonable than your Faith in Deism/God.