Churches urged to back evolution

British Broadcasting Corporation ^ | 20 February 2006 | Paul Rincon

[BMCDA]

Ayup, after all you didn't lie but simply misspoke.

[furball4paws]

Go ahead and increase your expectations. The only effect that will have is to increase your frustration. We're dealing with something that's stuck on "pretty much worthless". Changing expectations won't move it one bit. The answer is getting rid of teacher's unions and privatizing schools.

For what it's worth it's got my vote. But I don't see anything happening anytime soon.

[ml1954]

ALL prominent evolutionists are atheists.

Abusive and unsubstantiated assertion.

[RunningWolf]

//ALL prominent evolutionists are atheists. Lesser known evolutionists just try to hop on the coattails of the prominent ones//

It sure looks that way doesn't it?

Wolf

[ml1954]

I think I'll go get lunch. Anyone want to join me?

I know what you mean. Sounds good to me.

[Elsie]

....and Noah's Flood believers.

 

Kinda like THESE guys???

 

 

NIV Matthew 24:37-44
 37.  As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
 38.  For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark;
 39.  and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.
 40.  Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.
 41.  Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.
 42.  "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come.
 43.  But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into.
 44.  So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him.

 

 

 

NIV Luke 17:26-30
 26.  "Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man.
 27.  People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.
 28.  "It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building.
 29.  But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
 30.  "It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed.

 

 

 

NIV Hebrews 11:7
 7.  By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.

 

 

 

NIV 1 Peter 3:18-22
 18.  For Christ died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God. He was put to death in the body but made alive by the Spirit,
 19.  through whom  also he went and preached to the spirits in prison
 20.  who disobeyed long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,
 21.  and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also--not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
 22.  who has gone into heaven and is at God's right hand--with angels, authorities and powers in submission to him.

 

 

 

NIV 2 Peter 2:4-9
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.

[BMCDA]

ModernMan and SeaLion placemarker

[Elsie]

...it's much easier to study the world than it is to study God.

Ahha.......

[Vaquero]

sorry I dont see it. Good luck.

[Always Right]

Is evolution currently being taught in such a way? If so, how?

Certainly there are cases where teachers ridicule those who do not fully accept evolution as the explanation for the origin of life. Once instance a Biology professor (Dini) at Texas Tech required students to completely disavow any belief that a creator was involved before he would offer a recommendation for a student for medical school. There is a belief among staunch evolutionists that if someone believes in any kind of intelligent design then that person is not fit to go on in fields of science and medicine. It is that kind of bigotry that is not only wrong but deters the advancement of science by disallowing opinions that questions theories that are accepted as scientific fact. A good theory should be able to stand challenges.

[Elsie]

You told a lie once; so now NOTHING you ever say again is worthwhile.

[Virginia-American]

ALL prominent evolutionists are atheists

Is Simon Conway Morris "prominent"?

How about Theodosius Dobzhansky?

Or Asa Gray?

Richard Dawkins is atheist. I think S. J. Gould was. Any other biologists or paleontologists you can think of?

[Vaquero]

"Berkinstock wearing"

speak fer yerself Elsie. ; )~

[The_Victor]

Changing expectations won't move it one bit. The answer is getting rid of teacher's unions and privatizing schools.

That would certainly help our education system. But it galls me to shy away from teaching the truth, and teaching the basis of scientific thought just because it's hard and we don't expect teachers to do it right, or students to understand. Perhaps I'm unrealistically optimistic, but my experience with my own children is that high expectations begets high achievement.

[Elsie]

I just dont see him in the ramblings of the primitive people who penned the words.

We shouldn't be so smug.

I just imagine that in 4006, we will look a bit 'primitive' to those folks looking back at us!

[Vaquero]

Although I often read Gould before his passing when he wrote in the AMNH publication (and I also watched him when he was on NOVA etc.). I like his stuff, but he was a RED. That does not necessarily eclipse his science, he was who he was. I enjoyed his science but rejected his politics.

[Elsie]

ALL prominent evolutionists are atheists. Abusive and unsubstantiated assertion.

Pat; didn't we have a breakdown of just where the E's and C's fit on a theological rating?

Seems like we took an online survey last year... IIRC.

[Vaquero]

I just imagine that in 4006, we will look a bit 'primitive' to those folks looking back at us! ABSOLUTELY....its called Evolution. Thanks for the help.

[RunningWolf]

//I just imagine that in 4006, we will look a bit 'primitive' to those folks looking back at us//

If we have not done ourselves in by then

[Elsie]

You missed the juxaposition:

Berkie's vs SUV's