[Ichneumon]

Hey, you guys are doing it to yourselves. I'm only emphasizing what you say and feeding it back to you largely. You're so embarrassed in the end you shut up and leave or try to change the subject.

No, we just give up on trying to explain things to you simply enough that you finally stop misunderstanding and/or misrepresenting it.

Eventually we realize that this is a futile task and we leave you to your ignorance.

Don't mistake that for your having "won" the discussion by actual refutation. You can't "win" by being so persistently dense and/or dishonest that we decide you're a lost cause.

[Havoc]

There is no way of misrepresenting what you said. Corn turned into Corn - speciation has thus ocurred. That is the argument boiled down to it's simplest. Amazing how it sounds more important with all the techno babble attached and it's drawn out to book length.. when you boil it down to the basic truth, corn turned into corn and you somehow want us to believe that's macro-evolution.

Stand in it long enough, you can't smell it...

[shuckmaster]

You can't "win" by being so persistently dense and/or dishonest that we decide you're a lost cause.

That would make a great tagline!