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To: tallhappy
Just cause you read something written on TO a long time ago doesn't make it Gospel. To you it does, but you just don't understand biochemistry, virology or chromosomal structure nor are up to date on the literature and thinking.

Wow, what a *lame* retort... My identification of your two incredibly bone-headed errors regarding the gene-therapy trial had nothing whatsoever to do with any material from Talk.Origins. It simply identifies two amazingly naive/ignorant errors you made, and documents that they are contradicted by a) the most basic and elementary knowledge of how gene therapy is done, and b) the contents of the journal articles themselves which deal with the gene-therapy trial you were making the bizarre claims about.

If this is the best "defense" you can muster, I don't know why you even try, unless you *want* to make yourself appear a pathetic and clumsily blustering buffoon.

500 posted on 02/13/2006 3:24:14 PM PST by Ichneumon
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501?


502 posted on 02/13/2006 3:30:25 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Ichneumon; PatrickHenry; longshadow; jennyp

"unless you *want* to make yourself appear a pathetic and clumsily blustering buffoon."

I think more than half of the Creationists around here are actually Partrick Henry. You'll note he never answers them. He must do that to avoid talking to himself. What does he do on these threads anyway? Just wait around for "primes". He likes starting long threads and stirring the pot. It feeds his ego.

For all I know you are Patrick Henry, too. That's why you're the only who ever gets thunderous applause. Longshadow and jennyp have already admitted they are really PatrickHenry on previous threads.

Darwin Central is truly a conspiracy, not one that cares, but an evil force.


505 posted on 02/13/2006 3:37:34 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Ichneumon
It's not a retort. Look at 453. I have mentioned the chimp genome findings and findings of other studies many times. Now I have posted verbatim a seection from one of the initial chimp genome papers that analysed these sort of elements wherein common descent can be examined.

It's not as simple as the writer you use make it out to be.

It's not accurate as you put it.

513 posted on 02/13/2006 3:49:38 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Ichneumon
Your comments here are incredibly ironic.

Incredibly.

I made no errors. You did not correct any -- you were just wrong. You mixed up the number of cells exposed to vector with integration evetns. You never understood the non-random nature of the integration which resulted in the LMO2 amplication and the leukemias which led to the study being halted pre-maturely.

You also did not understand and ignored the most recent studies on molecular retroviral insertion which indicates less randomness than previously believed.

523 posted on 02/13/2006 4:24:03 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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