No, you don't. You just have your own ability to misunderstand, and to misrepresent in a way that isn't fooling anyone. You're only fooling yourself when you think that your trolling is helping your cause. Instead it just highlights the frequent confusion, lack of education, and dishonesty of the typical anti-evolutionist.
I got one telling me there's a conspiracy to destroy the sciences when he's selling it on the basis that it will destroy tech advances and his proof is that he's afraid his ideology will go down the toilet as he picked topics of proof that deal not with tech; but, with his ideology (evolution).
Again, you are frantically misrepresenting the actual discussion, and you're doing it very transparently. Do you think that actually helps your credibility any?
On and on. It's a target rich environment.
Yes, we know you can fling childish ridicule in all directions. Liberals do that as well. But the only target you hit is your own credibility. Why do you bother?
If I took you guys on the road for three days and just let you carry on, you'd do more damage to your own cause than Me, Hovind, Ham,
Yeah, yeah, yeah... That's what Michael Moore says about conservatives too, and for the same reasons.
Nonetheless, despite your bluster, I very frequently get thoughtful FreepMails from screen names I've never seen before (i.e., people who lurk more often than they post), making it clear that between your "side" and my "side", they have no problem recognizing who is doing "damage" to their cause and who is winning their respect. Here's one of the most recent ones:
It doesn't appear as if you're fooling anyone, Havoc -- they see right through you.Re: False Fear Epidemic over Critical Analysis of Evolution Spreads to Wisconsin
From [elided] | 02/08/2006 4:59:56 PM CST read
I have been reading your posts on these ID threads for a while and I finally had to drop you a few lines saying how much I enjoy reading them.
I really didn't know much about the ToE beyond what I learned in my freshman plant biology class, but I have learned a tremendous amount by reading your posts and links.
This subject is a bit personal to me.. I attended a small religious school for elementary/high school and our science curriculum espoused creationism (This was in the mid-late 90s.. I dont think ID was the fashionable term yet). Anyway, not even knowing most of the factual evidence for the ToE, I thought [ID] was garbage back then.. the textbook the school used had all the creationist strawmen in them, Piltdown man, finding a watch on the beach.. logical fallacies even an 8th grader could pick out.
Anyways, just wanted to say thanks for increasing my knowledge in the subject. As an aside, I have to say you are a much more patient man than I am. I dont think I have ever seen a more willfully ignorant or intellectually dishonest group of posters than ID proponents .. (possible exception might be the 'true believers' who inhabit some of the War on Drugs threads.. :P )
Btw, has anyone even attempted to rebut your retrovirus evidence for common descent? I see on most threads people clamor for evidence and then promptly ignore what you post.
Right, and the guy that got the Redbaron was a beagle dog on a red dog-house.
Again, you are frantically misrepresenting the actual discussion, and you're doing it very transparently. Do you think that actually helps your credibility any?
No, I think I noted that I confused two posts earlier and corrected myself. And did it to the person who I confused the other with. Helps if you Keep up, son.
Yes, we know you can fling childish ridicule in all directions. Liberals do that as well. But the only target you hit is your own credibility. Why do you bother?
Heh. No comment. After the attempt by your side to hijack the thread and shut me up with vile assassinations of my person because you were all looking so bad, one can't help but laugh at your nonsense. Next.
That's what Michael Moore says about conservatives too, and for the same reasons.
Well, if you must delude yourself. I'm not the one having to do damage control here. All I have to do is point out what you're saying and damage control drones move into action.. lol. Dog breeds proliferated recently and so quickly it amazes people yet, they can't proliferate that quickly.. Don't need to say much more, just point to it.. lol.
Nonetheless, despite your bluster, I very frequently get thoughtful FreepMails from screen names I've never seen before
"I am Underwhelmed" - Erwin Ellmann