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To: nopardons

hehe. If you had valid arguments and any amount of proof you wouldn't have to resort to trying to convince people that your opposition is a liar, taliban, etc. Sound like the dims.. vacant, utterly vacant.


1,273 posted on 02/15/2006 12:41:31 AM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc; nopardons
If you had valid arguments and any amount of proof

We do. We've posted great gobs of it, you just keep dishonestly pretending we haven't.

you wouldn't have to resort to trying to convince people that your opposition is a liar, taliban, etc.

It's not "resorting" to anything, it's telling it like it is:

The United States holds a very tenuous position in the world.
Historically, our great physical resources counted high, but today more
than any physical resource we rely on the scientific and technological
superiority born in our nation's schools.  President Bush has recently
realized this and is belatedly promoting math and science education.

There are international organizations which have targeted science in
our public schools.   Fueled by  religious extremism, they aim to
destroy science education in America.  The word "Taliban" referred to
students in religious schools long before it meant anti-American
terrorists.  We are under attack from another set of religious
subversives no less dangerous.  Amazingly, these operations are not
hidden.  They even boast of their growth and penetration, eroding
America's thin technological edge.  The Los Angeles Times has just
published a long article (11 Feb. 2006) largely lauding the efforts of
these enemies of knowledge.  Times reporter Stephanie Simon sees this
subversion by Ken Ham, CEO of "Answer's in Genesis Ministry, Inc." as
recruiting children "... to stand up for God as the Creator."

How does Ham do this?  I have made careful study of many of AiG's
phantasmal "evidences" and have found then to be a combination of gross
exaggerations and out-right falsehoods.  ( c.f.  "Dino-blood and the
Young Earth" http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/dinosaur/blood.html ).
Last I checked, God didn't need that sort of support.  What Ken Ham is
actually promoting is the active denial of creation's realities to
promote his marginal (but lucrative) biblical interpretation, one
rejected by thousands of Christian clergy in America alone.  (c.f. The
Clergy Letter Project,
http://www.uwosh.edu/colleges/cols/religion_science_collaboration.htm )

Originally an Australian operation, today Answers in Genesis Ministries
Inc. is actively seeking to destroy America's science and technology
base by eliminating science education and replacing it with religious
indoctrination.  Ham flagrantly encourages children to disrupt
classrooms across America with such stupid challenges as "Were you
there?"  I dare say that Mr. Ham was not present at his grandparents'
conceptions.  His mere existence is more reliable than any eyewitness
accounts and allows us to infer that these multiple independent events
occurred.  Factual support for evolution is as strong, if not stonger.

The Answers in Genesis operation swears that "By definition, no
apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history
and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record,"
(AiG, Statement of Belief).  Their version of the Scriptural record is
at odds with that of many Christians, none-the-less they demand us to
abandon physics, chemistry, biology, astronomy, geology, anthropology
as well as history and blindly implement their beliefs.

We already feel the consequences of their dangerous mission as
evidenced by the growing need to import scientifically trained
personnel to maintain our industries and a growing American reliance on
foreign graduate students to fill our university science programs.
There are home-grown organizations with the same goals.  One prominent
example is the Discovery Institute which promotes "Intelligent Design"
creationism.   However, their internal documents revealed a mission no
different from Ham's.

Gary S. Hurd, Ph.D.


1,277 posted on 02/15/2006 12:48:39 AM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Havoc
You ARE a liar. You have been called on it, on every imaginable kind of thread there is here.

I can and shall give examples, IF you ask me to; though it seems as though there are lots of others who know this about you, from their own reading of your posts.

1,280 posted on 02/15/2006 12:53:12 AM PST by nopardons
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