Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science

CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 12 February 2006 | John Glennon

[tallhappy]

How do species arise? Spontaneous generation?

[tallhappy]

I'd believe it went against the foundations of what the TOE says (and modern genetics as well).

But would you believe it was magic?

[tallhappy]

Any fertile offspring is always the same species as the parents.

So how do new species arise?

[CarolinaGuitarman]

" But would you believe it was magic?"

No. Unlike creationists/id'ers I don't throw up my hands and quit when something confounds me. I would acknowledge that my previous theories were wrong, and try to figure out what was going on. An ID'er/creationist would not know how it happened either but would say, *God did it*, and be done with any further inquiry. They are the ones who believe in *magic*.

[Right Wing Professor]

I'll let your hysterically funny, and hysterical, reply speak for itself.

[Thatcherite]

How do species arise? Spontaneous generation?

No. I shouldn't have to explain the basics of evolutionary theory to you unless you are a liar. You've already made it quite plain that you've investigated it carefully and rejected it, so obviously you already know the absolute basics; evolution 101.

[Thatcherite]

So how do new species arise?

Why are you asking this? You must already know, because you claim to understand evolution well enough to reject it. Why are you asking absolutely basic questions about evolution?

[Ichneumon]

The fact is that evolution is designed to deceive.

Wrong. It is designed to be an explanation which best matches 150 years of accumulated real-world evidence.

It has deceived many.

Oh? How does the best explanation which has been validated by careful applications of the scientific method "deceive" anyone?

It has you believing that something was created out of nothing

Wow, are *you* confused. Hey, I have a novel idea -- why don't you anti-evolution folks try to *learn* something about evolutionary biology before you attempt to hysterically attack it?

Evolution in no way involves "something created out of nothing". It involves new species arising from older species via genetic change. Period. Nowhere in evolutionary theory is there anything at all about anything coming from "nothing". Just how ignorant are you?

- sheer impossible by any objective science standards - it's makes a mockery of science

You make a mockery of human intelligence.

- the very thing evolutionists worship - evolution

Wrong *again*.

turns the laws of science on its head for an predetermined outcome - godless, illogical, insulating to God (calling Him an ape), death before sin (dinosaurs here before man because they were busy "evolving from apes" etc..

"This is your brain on creationism".

Nothing about evolution makes any sense

Well not to people who are really, *really* confused about it, like yourself...

and the evidence certainly doesn't support it.

ROFL! Do even you believe this stuff that comes out of your brain? The evidence supporting evolution is vast and overwhelming, along multiple cross-confirming lines. Evolution has been validated by the evidence and research findings countless times over, and survived endless falsification tests. But then you've already been informed of this over and over again and shown large amounts of the evidence, and lacking any actual ability to refute the material, you just keep stamping your feet and repeating, "no evidence, no evidence, no evidence" like a child having a tantrum. Do you anti-evolutionists realize how pathetic you look? Thanks for so clearly confirming the article which started this thread...

[Ichneumon]

[How do species arise? Spontaneous generation?]

No. I shouldn't have to explain the basics of evolutionary theory to you unless you are a liar.

I've seen it coming for a long time, but he has finally completely lost it.

[Ichneumon]

Nothing to do with epistomology Mr left Wing Professor who doesn't know the difference between ribosomal based mechanisms of anti-biotics vs lactam inhibition based, Mr never Ping me cry baby whining victim (who doesn't know what the term ping even means). Call it Epissedoffology all you want, it's Hardly Coherent. Look, we have established you are dull and dimwitted. Now we have established you cannot even hold to your own convictions. I'd quote the Bibble, but you might be too scared and Sue Bee, orsomething about how a dog always returns to his own vomit comes to mind. Some gibberish is fun for all -- some is gibberish.

Gibberish saved for future amusement...

[Ichneumon]

Is it just me, or would that have looked even more at home in a blue font?

[Thatcherite]

I missed this first time round...

"insulating to God (calling Him an ape)" placemarker

ROFL

[RightWingNilla]

I thought the Universe fell out of the cargo hatch of a C-47

Now thats the best creation story Ive ever heard.

Can I join your church?

[tallhappy]

OK. Not magic. It would be an aspect of evolution we didn't understand or foresee.

The theory would be modified.

[Thatcherite]

There are many candidates on this thread for "This is your brain on creationism", but I think the creationists have realised what an honour it is to get into that link-set, and they are now trying too hard at it. The series of rants by the Kent Hovind impersonator (or KH himself?) is too manic to be funny, and that's the case with too many of the posts in this thread. Pity.

[RadioAstronomer]

A very sweet young lady friend of mine (colleague as well) passed on today. Sigh.

What a suck email to come into work to.

[Right Wing Professor]

The hysteria is similar, certainly, but given the sign-up date, I doubt it.

[tallhappy]

You've already made it quite plain that you've investigated it carefully and rejected it

I do not. I never said that. I have not made that clear nor have I ever said anything that indicates that.

Come on, how do species arise?

[tallhappy]

Exzygotically!!

Humor is something I have, yes.

You should look in to it.

[Thatcherite]

I'm not quite clear. Do you reject evolution or not? If you reject it did you examine it carefully first or not?

Why do you want anyone to teach you evolution 101? Somehow from your posting history I'm not suspecting "honest enquiry" is the answer.