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Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science
CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^
| 12 February 2006
| John Glennon
Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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This pretty well sums it all up.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:33:51 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
To: PatrickHenry
A good summary of the issue. Thanks for posting it!
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:34:57 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: PatrickHenry
You couldn't have written it better yerself! ===> Placemarker <===
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:37:11 AM PST
by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: PatrickHenry
Are these the same scientists that accept the "scientific" studies relating to secondhand smoke? I'm afraid the scientific community has succumbed to politics.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:41:22 AM PST
by
Camel Joe
To: PatrickHenry
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:42:13 AM PST
by
Buck W.
(John Kerry: The Emir of Absurdistan.)
To: Camel Joe
"Are these the same scientists that accept the "scientific" studies relating to secondhand smoke?"
No, they aren't the same scientists.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:45:09 AM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: Camel Joe
"Are these the same scientists that accept the "scientific" studies relating to secondhand smoke?"
Do you see anything here about smoking? If not, what does your post have to do with this topic? Do you actually have anything to add to the debate over ID?
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:46:54 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: PatrickHenry
This pretty well sums it all up.LOL
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:46:55 AM PST
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
To: MineralMan
Intelligent Design is just as viable as ANY other theory regarding the origins of the universe. When matter and mass and gravity become infinite like the conditions at the time of the Big Bang mathematics breaks down and many variables become undefined, including time.
Who is to say that some giant alien creature named GOD didn't pick his nose and flick a booger which exploded into our timeline and universe?
My hypothesis can not be disproven so therefore it also stands as a theory. A theory is only good until it is disproven by counterexample or mathematical counter-proof.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:49:12 AM PST
by
manglor
To: PatrickHenry
I just finished reading the article in the paper a few minutes ago. I thought it was well-done. John Glennon usually does a good job, and I like it when the CoCo times publishes one of his articles. He does a nice job here of addressing the issues.
To: PatrickHenry
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:51:55 AM PST
by
sully777
(What would Brian Boitano do?)
To: manglor
"Who is to say that some giant alien creature named GOD didn't pick his nose"
Yeah, I'm sure the Flying Spaghetti Monster making man with his noodly appendage stands up to the rigors of science.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:52:50 AM PST
by
JHBowden
(Go White Sox -- World Champs!)
To: manglor
I think your post falls under this part of the article:
Supporters of intelligent design vehemently disagree, but they do not offer alternative theories or verifiable data. Instead, intelligent design proponents attack evolution with misinformation, half-truths and outright falsehoods.
To: PatrickHenry
ID claims since evolution can not explain everything, it must be false and therefore ID must be true.
That is an absurd argument to make.
I will concede that it is possible ID has taken place.
But ID in its current form is hogwash and even if ID has occurred, there is nothing to be gained by studying it since ID is completely out of human control, and completely arbitrary to the whims of the supernatural being.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:53:47 AM PST
by
staytrue
To: PatrickHenry
That's sort of goofy title.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:54:07 AM PST
by
Psycho_Bunny
(Women were put on Earth to look hot. Men are here to be stupid about it.)
To: manglor
"My hypothesis can not be disproven so therefore it also stands as a theory. A theory is only good until it is disproven by counterexample or mathematical counter-proof."
You are not describing a scientific theory. A scientific theory is never proved/disproved in a mathematical sense. There is only evidence for or against. ID is not a scientific theory because there is no way to test it; there is no way to get weighted evidence for or against it. It's simply a gutless choice for people who don't wish to actually do the hard work of real science. It's ignorance standing athwart knowledge and yelling *Stop!*.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:55:12 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: sully777
"In before 1000!"
Just barely. :)
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:56:10 AM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: PatrickHenry
Personally, I don't think the Almighty cares one way or another what a person thinks on this score. But Creationism or ID, or whatever you want to euphemize it with, has no place in science classes.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:56:45 AM PST
by
Mr Ramsbotham
(Bend over and think of England.)
To: manglor
Who is to say that some giant alien creature named GOD didn't pick his nose and flick a booger which exploded into our timeline and universe? I agree! Your "booger theory" definitely has the same scientific standing as ID.
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posted on
02/12/2006 10:58:28 AM PST
by
PatrickHenry
(Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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