Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science

CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 12 February 2006 | John Glennon

[PatrickHenry]

This pretty well sums it all up.

[PatrickHenry]

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[MineralMan]

A good summary of the issue. Thanks for posting it!

[Coyoteman]

You couldn't have written it better yerself! ===> Placemarker <===

[Camel Joe]

Are these the same scientists that accept the "scientific" studies relating to secondhand smoke? I'm afraid the scientific community has succumbed to politics.

[Buck W.]

Great article--thanks.

[MineralMan]

"Are these the same scientists that accept the "scientific" studies relating to secondhand smoke?"

No, they aren't the same scientists.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Are these the same scientists that accept the "scientific" studies relating to secondhand smoke?"

Do you see anything here about smoking? If not, what does your post have to do with this topic? Do you actually have anything to add to the debate over ID?

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

This pretty well sums it all up.

LOL

[manglor]

Intelligent Design is just as viable as ANY other theory regarding the origins of the universe. When matter and mass and gravity become infinite like the conditions at the time of the Big Bang mathematics breaks down and many variables become undefined, including time.

Who is to say that some giant alien creature named GOD didn't pick his nose and flick a booger which exploded into our timeline and universe?

My hypothesis can not be disproven so therefore it also stands as a theory. A theory is only good until it is disproven by counterexample or mathematical counter-proof.

[FixedandDilated]

I just finished reading the article in the paper a few minutes ago. I thought it was well-done. John Glennon usually does a good job, and I like it when the CoCo times publishes one of his articles. He does a nice job here of addressing the issues.

[sully777]

In before 1000!

[JHBowden]

"Who is to say that some giant alien creature named GOD didn't pick his nose"

Yeah, I'm sure the Flying Spaghetti Monster making man with his noodly appendage stands up to the rigors of science.

[skip_intro]

I think your post falls under this part of the article:

Supporters of intelligent design vehemently disagree, but they do not offer alternative theories or verifiable data. Instead, intelligent design proponents attack evolution with misinformation, half-truths and outright falsehoods.

[staytrue]

ID claims since evolution can not explain everything, it must be false and therefore ID must be true.

That is an absurd argument to make.

I will concede that it is possible ID has taken place.

But ID in its current form is hogwash and even if ID has occurred, there is nothing to be gained by studying it since ID is completely out of human control, and completely arbitrary to the whims of the supernatural being.

[Psycho_Bunny]

That's sort of goofy title.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"My hypothesis can not be disproven so therefore it also stands as a theory. A theory is only good until it is disproven by counterexample or mathematical counter-proof."

You are not describing a scientific theory. A scientific theory is never proved/disproved in a mathematical sense. There is only evidence for or against. ID is not a scientific theory because there is no way to test it; there is no way to get weighted evidence for or against it. It's simply a gutless choice for people who don't wish to actually do the hard work of real science. It's ignorance standing athwart knowledge and yelling *Stop!*.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"In before 1000!"

Just barely. :)

[Mr Ramsbotham]

Personally, I don't think the Almighty cares one way or another what a person thinks on this score. But Creationism or ID, or whatever you want to euphemize it with, has no place in science classes.

[PatrickHenry]

Who is to say that some giant alien creature named GOD didn't pick his nose and flick a booger which exploded into our timeline and universe?

I agree! Your "booger theory" definitely has the same scientific standing as ID.