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Putin against closing mausoleum, burying Lenin’s body
Itar Tass News Agency ^
| 2-7-06
| ITAR-TASS
Posted on 02/07/2006 3:23:43 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite
MOSCOW, February 7 (Itar-Tass) -- President Vladimir Putin does not support the idea to close the Red Square mausoleum and bury Vladimir Lenins body.
I wish to find solutions, which would enjoy support by the majority of citizens and promote reconciliation and unity of the nation rather than a split, Putin told the Spanish media.
I visited [Francisco] Francos grave when I was in Spain in the middle of the 1990s. Opinions may differ, and there are two completely different things. I am against drawing any parallels between fascism and communism, he said.
Each ideology has its own notions of justice and problems, but it would be incorrect to match them, he said. Franco is a rather controversial personality, and there are different assessments of his role. But he was buried in a pantheon with all the honors.
Spanish people suffered a lot during the Civil War, and Russian citizens suffered equally or even more during the civil confrontation, Putin said. Nowadays, we should not provoke a split but promote unification and reconciliation with every step of ours.
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KEYWORDS: burythecommie; communism; communists; kgb; kprf; lenin; putin; putincommie; russia; sovietunion; ussr
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Comment #61 Removed by Moderator
To: GarySpFc
Putin affirms that he is a communist (or likes them) by not forcibly burying Lenin.
To: Thunder90
Putin affirms that he is a communist (or likes them) by not forcibly burying Lenin.
Only a person with oatmeal for brains would make such a stupid leap in logic.
63
posted on
02/08/2006 1:35:26 PM PST
by
GarySpFc
(de oppresso liber)
To: jb6
Don't ping your alter ego x5452 as he appears to be offended by my comment that double agents for Putie might not get more than one paycheck.
And on what basis do you surmise that my command of english is lacking? If Garyspfc calls Lenins Mausoleum a place of honor, he is not saying it is "a place of honor" as any conservative would, i.e. using quotes to distance oneself from the persverse Russian sense of "honor".
After all, how could any VietNam vet indicate that Lenin, the Russian Butcher, be uttered in the same sentence as "honor".
64
posted on
02/08/2006 4:40:14 PM PST
by
spanalot
To: GarySpFc; jb6
How do you two justify honoring Lenin who killed 1.5 million Ukrainians in 1921 with a phoney famine?
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posted on
02/08/2006 4:50:53 PM PST
by
spanalot
To: GarySpFc
"YOU LYING LITTLE TRAMP. I NEVER CALLED LENIN'S TOMB A "PLACE OF HONOR.""
Oh really Gary? What pray tell is the following?
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Russia Weighs What to Do With Lenin's Body
Revisiting a proposal that thwarted Boris N. Yeltsin, who faced down tanks but in his time as president could not persuade Russians to remove the Soviet Union's founder from his place of honor, a senior aide to President Vladimir V. Putin raised the matter last week, saying it was time to bury the man.
"Our country has been shaken by strife, but only a few people were held accountable for that in our lifetime," said the aide, Georgi Poltavchenko. "I do not think it is fair that those who initiated the strife remain in the center of our state near the Kremlin."
17 posted on 02/07/2006 6:59:09 PM EST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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And if this is not your statement, learn to use quotes.
66
posted on
02/08/2006 4:56:54 PM PST
by
spanalot
To: Lukasz
Putin said I am against drawing any parallels between fascism and communism, and this is communist apologism. Putin refuse to admit that people like Stalin or Lenin were scum.Wow you draw a lot of conclusions (as usual). Next you'll tell me what card I'm holding up.
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posted on
02/08/2006 5:46:36 PM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: spanalot
Don't ping your alter ego x5452 as he appearsRan out of prozac again?
68
posted on
02/08/2006 6:08:13 PM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: spanalot
After all, how could any VietNam vet indicate that Lenin, the Russian Butcher, be uttered in the same sentence as "honor".Guess you still didn't learn to comprehend english and its sayings, have you? Best run back to the Communist paper of choice of yours: Zavtra for more Tymniki advice.
69
posted on
02/08/2006 6:09:08 PM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: jb6; Stellar Dendrite
Why is it that you and Romanov and garyspfc allude to your opponents writing in basements?
70
posted on
02/08/2006 6:10:30 PM PST
by
spanalot
To: spanalot
"Don't ping your alter ego x5452"
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on
02/08/2006 6:12:41 PM PST
by
Stellar Dendrite
(There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
To: spanalot
And if this is not your statement, learn to use quotes.
Firstly, it is obvious to most human beings that was from the article in the link.
Secondly, I clearly explains why it was not obvious to you.
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posted on
02/08/2006 8:49:48 PM PST
by
GarySpFc
(de oppresso liber)
To: spanalot
How do you two justify honoring Lenin who killed 1.5 million Ukrainians in 1921 with a phoney famine?
It's very obvious your dreams at night are about sending all Russians to the gas chambers. You really have a psychological problem with hate.
73
posted on
02/08/2006 8:52:08 PM PST
by
GarySpFc
(de oppresso liber)
To: GarySpFc; spanalot
"It's very obvious your dreams at night are about sending all Russians to the gas chambers. You really have a psychological problem with hate."
more lies from the russian wives club
74
posted on
02/09/2006 7:37:55 AM PST
by
Stellar Dendrite
(There's nothing "Mainstream" about the Orwellian Media!!!)
To: spanalot
You don't write from basements, I'm sure you write from a well lit and air conditioned office, set just aside for agiprop.
75
posted on
02/09/2006 7:38:41 PM PST
by
jb6
(The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
To: GarySpFc
The only thing that is obvious to all is that you are a Putin apologist.
76
posted on
02/11/2006 9:53:56 AM PST
by
spanalot
To: spanalot; jb6; Romanov; x5452; tgambill; Sarajevo
The only thing that is obvious to all is that you are a Putin apologist.
It is very obvious to many of us that you are a psuedo-conservative immigrant from an eastern European country, and you are still using Marxist histrionics to disrupt true conservatives. I quote the following post of Romanov's from another thread.
The arguments forwarded on here by the pseudo-conservatives are almost word for word the same arguments forwarded by the "I hate America" crowd operating via Soros-funded organizations (such as Moveon.org). The appearance that FR seems to be infiltrated by such is borne out by the disinformation tactics (Marxist in nature)by the of casting aspertions on true patriots by false patriots. If the true patriots are using fact to support their arguments, tarnish them by questioning their loyalty to country. If the true patriots are using fact to support their arguments, call for reinforcements and have them label the true patriots as being disloyal (the sad thing is most of those labeling the true patriots as disloyal are from foreign countries, or have origins in former Communist countries).
Leftist (Marxist) tactics call for using any methods to keep the real message from reaching the people. They do this by name-calling, changing the subject, making statements that cannot be backed up by fact, and ignoring calls to prove the misstatements. They keep people on the defensive by constantly staying on the offensive. A quick glance at the Russian-related threads on FR show this tactic constantly employed. What is the end goal - cause enough derision in the conservative movement to see it descend into in-fighting and to make it lose focus of the tenants of the conservative movements. As it stands today, the leftists posing as conservatives on this site have made some headway on this front. They have been adept at coordinating personal attacks on American veterans/military, and other people "in the know" and have caused threads to descend into chaos. What they don't realize is the true patriots will never leave and understand quite well the Marxist-leftist tactics employed because the true patroits have worked most of their adult lives to defeat these sordid types. Sure, they've been able to use other people's misplaced paranoia about former Communist countries' to their advantage, but those who do some individual research on the claims made by the pseudo-conservatives soon realize the lies they post on here.
77
posted on
02/11/2006 10:14:07 AM PST
by
GarySpFc
(de oppresso liber)
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